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Re: Does Britain need to catch up ?????
Very interesting thing happened today, my wife was released from the rehab facility but still needs home health, 3 mouths after her car wreck. Anyway the person from the home health agency asked her if she was "OK with a black nurse". apparently there are some who do.
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Re: Does Britain need to catch up ?????
Originally Posted by Michael
(Post 11046821)
What I find a little strange about much of Europe is that there is almost a "politeness law" between politicians and if it isn't followed, one politician can sue another politician for slander or possibly even bring criminal charges.
That's the UK for you; censorship and nanny state with NO legal right to freedom of speech. |
Re: Does Britain need to catch up ?????
Originally Posted by Ulsterman in Texas
(Post 11047612)
Very interesting thing happened today, my wife was released from the rehab facility but still needs home health, 3 mouths after her car wreck. Anyway the person from the home health agency asked her if she was "OK with a black nurse". apparently there are some who do.
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Re: Does Britain need to catch up ?????
Originally Posted by Ulsterman in Texas
(Post 11047612)
Very interesting thing happened today, my wife was released from the rehab facility but still needs home health, 3 mouths after her car wreck. Anyway the person from the home health agency asked her if she was "OK with a black nurse". apparently there are some who do.
Originally Posted by Derrygal
(Post 11047673)
That is one of the reasons I would never live in the South. I lived in Georgia for 3 years - couldn't go back down south - I'm way too liberal minded for Texas or any other southern state.
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Re: Does Britain need to catch up ?????
Originally Posted by Ulsterman in Texas
(Post 11047612)
Very interesting thing happened today, my wife was released from the rehab facility but still needs home health, 3 mouths after her car wreck. Anyway the person from the home health agency asked her if she was "OK with a black nurse". apparently there are some who do.
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Re: Does Britain need to catch up ?????
Originally Posted by hungryhorace
(Post 11047660)
Internet providers in the UK have now added the political party the BNP to their 'hate speech' list of things to be blocked. Whilst I abhore the BNP's views, I'm even more outraged that they're being censored.
That's the UK for you; censorship and nanny state with NO legal right to freedom of speech. |
Re: Does Britain need to catch up ?????
Originally Posted by Curtis86
(Post 11047749)
LoL, you make it seem like it's North Korea. Whilst I agree with your view to an extent, I also do not condone nor believe that it should be ok to speak such hatred and get away with it. I just believe that certain things should not be said nor tolerated.
Your mention of North Korea is interesting btw; a lot of restrictions the UK has placed on freedom of speech could have easily been lifted from the Middle Eastern despot handbook 101. |
Re: Does Britain need to catch up ?????
Originally Posted by hungryhorace
(Post 11047838)
The BNP might air views that you, I and others find objectionable, but censoring their right to air those views is an affront to democracy. Period.
Your mention of North Korea is interesting btw; a lot of restrictions the UK has placed on freedom of speech could have easily been lifted from the Middle Eastern despot handbook 101. |
Re: Does Britain need to catch up ?????
Originally Posted by hungryhorace
(Post 11047838)
The BNP might air views that you, I and others find objectionable, but censoring their right to air those views is an affront to democracy. Period.
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Re: Does Britain need to catch up ?????
Originally Posted by Curtis86
(Post 11047873)
Well, more than 95% of those who go to Oxford and Cambridge come from private schools. Democracy isn't always such a privilege to everybody :)
"For 2012 entry, of UK students attending maintained or independent schools or colleges in the UK, 57.5% of places went to applicants from the state (maintained) sector and 42.5% to applicants from the independent sector: " http://www.ox.ac.uk/about_the_univer...hool_type.html ...and that has zero to do with "democracy" |
Re: Does Britain need to catch up ?????
Originally Posted by robin1234
(Post 11048079)
I disagree. I think the US Constitution and it's amendments is a ridiculous farrago and I don't think other countries need to be blindly emulating it. Hate speech should be subject to "censorship" and criminal sanction.
I mean, I think Engels and Marks were, through no great fault of their own, two of the most evil men to have lived. I don't think you should be allowed to quote them in your sig, because I am most awfully upset by the results of their writings. |
Re: Does Britain need to catch up ?????
Originally Posted by steveq
(Post 11048095)
I can't disagree more strongly, you have to quote Voltaire "I may not agree with what you say, but I defend to the death your right to say it"
I mean, I think Engels and Marks were, through no great fault of their own, two of the most evil men to have lived. I don't think you should be allowed to quote them in your sig, because I am most awfully upset by the results of their writings. |
Re: Does Britain need to catch up ?????
Originally Posted by Speedwell
(Post 11048105)
It's not that we have guaranteed freedom of speech. The principle of "my freedom to swing my fist ends at your nose" applies. The only freedom of expression the Constitution guarantees is freedom from interference by the government without an impartial law based on a sensible reason that takes into consideration the prior rights of other people. Slander and libel are still actionable, and abuse and fraud are still crimes.
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Re: Does Britain need to catch up ?????
Originally Posted by steveq
(Post 11048114)
Yes, I realise that, here though we have that "interference by government without an impartial law" bit. You have better slander and libel laws, because you also have fair comment
The main check on hate speech should be the manifest disapproval of the people around the speaker. Here in the US we are not so shy about telling people they're full of it. My perception (and I could be wrong) is that educated and cultured British people who hold enlightened views tend to be less confrontational, and to have to plow past the "don't make waves, don't put yourself forward" taboo when they do have to defend an unpopular position. |
Re: Does Britain need to catch up ?????
Originally Posted by Curtis86
(Post 11047873)
Well, more than 95% of those who go to Oxford and Cambridge come from private schools. Democracy isn't always such a privilege to everybody :)
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