Re: Dear America... | David Mitchell's SoapBox
Originally Posted by gradboy
(Post 9913389)
Don't be a snob. 'Gotten' is common in Northern England.
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Re: Dear America... | David Mitchell's SoapBox
Originally Posted by helwardman
(Post 9913609)
Not in any parts of Northern England that I ever lived in. Or visited.
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Re: Dear America... | David Mitchell's SoapBox
Originally Posted by helwardman
(Post 9913609)
Not in any parts of Northern England that I ever lived in. Or visited.
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Re: Dear America... | David Mitchell's SoapBox
Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
(Post 9913614)
Maybe he means northern New England ... ?
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Re: Dear America... | David Mitchell's SoapBox
Originally Posted by Sue
(Post 9912013)
Oh dear ... what have I started? :rofl:
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Re: Dear America... | David Mitchell's SoapBox
Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
(Post 9913614)
Maybe he means northern New England ... ?
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Re: Dear America... | David Mitchell's SoapBox
Gotten is fairly widely used in Yorkshire, not to mention Ireland.
Here's some evidence:
Originally Posted by wikipedia
The past participle gotten is never used in modern BrE (apart from in the dialects of North-Eastern and Western England), which generally uses got, except in old expressions such as ill-gotten gains. According to the Compact Oxford English Dictionary, "The form gotten is not used in British English but is very common in North American English, though even there it is often regarded as non-standard." The American dictionary Merriam-Webster, however, lists "gotten" as a standard past participle of "get." In AmE gotten emphasizes the action of acquiring and got tends to indicate simple possession (for example, Have you gotten it? versus Have you got it?). Gotten is also typically used in AmE as the past participle for phrasal verbs using get, such as get off, get on, get into, get up, and get around: If you hadn't gotten up so late, you might not have gotten into this mess. Interestingly, AmE, but not BrE, has forgot as a less common alternative to forgotten for the past participle of forget.
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Re: Dear America... | David Mitchell's SoapBox
Originally Posted by gradboy
(Post 9914273)
Gotten is fairly widely used in Yorkshire, not to mention Ireland.
Here's some evidence: |
Re: Dear America... | David Mitchell's SoapBox
Originally Posted by Sally Redux
(Post 9914279)
Have you actually heard it used in England or Ireland though?
Search for 'gotten' on the Yorkshire Post website, and you'll find loads of uses. For example:
Originally Posted by Yorkshire woman
"I'd ask him now and again as a matter of course if we were managing the payments and he said that everything was fine. I had no idea that he'd gotten into difficulties.
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Re: Dear America... | David Mitchell's SoapBox
Originally Posted by gradboy
(Post 9914283)
Not sure about Ireland, but I have definitely heard it used in West Yorkshire.
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Re: Dear America... | David Mitchell's SoapBox
Originally Posted by Sally Redux
(Post 9914291)
Are you sure they weren't saying "got t'..."? ;)
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Re: Dear America... | David Mitchell's SoapBox
Originally Posted by gradboy
(Post 9914297)
I've edited my previous post to link to some evidence - see for yourself.
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Re: Dear America... | David Mitchell's SoapBox
Originally Posted by Sally Redux
(Post 9914300)
Aha, interesting.
Originally Posted by somewhere which last time I checked is in Northern England
I agree that it might have been a little much for Jody to jump up on the glass after the final buzzer, but he only did it after four years of constant abuse from Panther fans. He might have gotten wrapped up in the emotions of the moment, but as my team-mate, I don't blame him at all. My only regret is for any young fan that might have gotten scared or felt threatened during that 5-10 seconds.
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Re: Dear America... | David Mitchell's SoapBox
"ill-gotten gains" and the like is still common everywhere isn't it?
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Re: Dear America... | David Mitchell's SoapBox
I know a good number of Yorkshire folk from various parts & I've never heard one of them use it.
But I can believe anything of them there Yorkshire folk ;):sneaky: |
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