Originally Posted by gradboy

Don't be a snob. 'Gotten' is common in Northern England.

Originally Posted by helwardman

Not in any parts of Northern England that I ever lived in. Or visited.

Originally Posted by helwardman

Not in any parts of Northern England that I ever lived in. Or visited.

Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing

Maybe he means northern New England ... ?

Originally Posted by Sue

Oh dear ... what have I started?

Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing

Maybe he means northern New England ... ?

Originally Posted by wikipedia

The past participle gotten is never used in modern BrE (apart from in the dialects of North-Eastern and Western England), which generally uses got, except in old expressions such as ill-gotten gains. According to the Compact Oxford English Dictionary, "The form gotten is not used in British English but is very common in North American English, though even there it is often regarded as non-standard." The American dictionary Merriam-Webster, however, lists "gotten" as a standard past participle of "get." In AmE gotten emphasizes the action of acquiring and got tends to indicate simple possession (for example, Have you gotten it? versus Have you got it?). Gotten is also typically used in AmE as the past participle for phrasal verbs using get, such as get off, get on, get into, get up, and get around: If you hadn't gotten up so late, you might not have gotten into this mess. Interestingly, AmE, but not BrE, has forgot as a less common alternative to forgotten for the past participle of forget.

Originally Posted by gradboy

Gotten is fairly widely used in Yorkshire, not to mention Ireland.

Here's some evidence:

Originally Posted by Sally Redux

Have you actually heard it used in England or Ireland though?

Originally Posted by Yorkshire woman

"I'd ask him now and again as a matter of course if we were managing the payments and he said that everything was fine. I had no idea that he'd gotten into difficulties.

Originally Posted by gradboy

Not sure about Ireland, but I have definitely heard it used in West Yorkshire.

Originally Posted by Sally Redux

Are you sure they weren't saying "got t'..."?

Originally Posted by gradboy

I've edited my previous post to link to some evidence - see for yourself.

Originally Posted by Sally Redux

Aha, interesting.

Originally Posted by somewhere which last time I checked is in Northern England

I agree that it might have been a little much for Jody to jump up on the glass after the final buzzer, but he only did it after four years of constant abuse from Panther fans. He might have gotten wrapped up in the emotions of the moment, but as my team-mate, I don't blame him at all. My only regret is for any young fan that might have gotten scared or felt threatened during that 5-10 seconds.