Consequences of the UK leaving Europe
#151
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See what you mean. That is likely true. I'm not there so not bombarded .
#152
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This is a small extract from the Guardian today. Again raises the question on if EEA is a viable option after Brexit.
If Brexit becomes a reality, there are a number of possible scenarios. Anthony Robinson, principal campaigns and communications adviser at the Confederation of British Industry (CBI), says that becoming one of the European Economic Area (EEA) states comes with its own challenges: “[It] would enable us to remain in the single market, but we would have no influence over the rules, we would still have to pay [a financial contribution] and accept free movement of people. It’s hard to see this as a valid option given the arguments for leaving revolve around immigration, cost and sovereignty.”
Leave or remain? The impact Brexit would have on UK jobs | Guardian Careers | The Guardian
If Brexit becomes a reality, there are a number of possible scenarios. Anthony Robinson, principal campaigns and communications adviser at the Confederation of British Industry (CBI), says that becoming one of the European Economic Area (EEA) states comes with its own challenges: “[It] would enable us to remain in the single market, but we would have no influence over the rules, we would still have to pay [a financial contribution] and accept free movement of people. It’s hard to see this as a valid option given the arguments for leaving revolve around immigration, cost and sovereignty.”
Leave or remain? The impact Brexit would have on UK jobs | Guardian Careers | The Guardian
#153
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#154
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Thats a great picture.
This is an interesting list of a lot of the potential tax changes
http://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/bre...for-the-32013/
This is an interesting list of a lot of the potential tax changes
http://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/bre...for-the-32013/
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Re: Consequences of the UK leaving Europe
Nope. The question is regarding our membership of the European Union. There's still the Council of Europe (and therefore the European Court of Human Rights so we still wouldn't be able to deport people to dodgy countries), the EU Customs Union and the EEA which the government would have no mandate to leave. 'Europe' is far more than the European Union. Have a look at this Venn diagram:
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It is. I know they used to use the lira, so I guess there's a kind of logic that they can mint euros like other users of the currency.
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#158
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Nope. The question is regarding our membership of the European Union. There's still the Council of Europe (and therefore the European Court of Human Rights so we still wouldn't be able to deport people to dodgy countries), the EU Customs Union and the EEA which the government would have no mandate to leave. 'Europe' is far more than the European Union. .
Key part of above being section I bolded. Currently government has no mandate to leave the EEA.
So what would it take to leave the EEA if it was later pushed for? New legislation? Parliamentary vote?
Can we assume that was the ultimate, (if presently unspoken) agenda for those at the very top the Brexit ladder?
#159
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Re. MrKen's question:
Key part of above being section I bolded. Currently government has no mandate to leave the EEA.
So what would it take to leave the EEA if it was later pushed for? New legislation? Parliamentary vote?
Can we assume that was the ultimate, (if presently unspoken) agenda for those at the very top the Brexit ladder?
Key part of above being section I bolded. Currently government has no mandate to leave the EEA.
So what would it take to leave the EEA if it was later pushed for? New legislation? Parliamentary vote?
Can we assume that was the ultimate, (if presently unspoken) agenda for those at the very top the Brexit ladder?
The direction of the negotiations will depend a lot on Conservative Party internal politics.
#162
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According to the Beeb, The UK's EU referendum: All you need to know - BBC News :
Prime Minister David Cameron promised to hold one if he won the 2015 general election, in response to growing calls from his own Conservative MPs and the UK Independence Party (UKIP), who argued that Britain had not had a say since 1975, when it voted to stay in the EU in a referendum. The EU has changed a lot since then, gaining more control over our daily lives, they argued. Mr Cameron said: "It is time for the British people to have their say. It is time to settle this European question in British politics."
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According to the Beeb, The UK's EU referendum: All you need to know - BBC News :
Prime Minister David Cameron promised to hold one if he won the 2015 general election, in response to growing calls from his own Conservative MPs and the UK Independence Party (UKIP), who argued that Britain had not had a say since 1975, when it voted to stay in the EU in a referendum. The EU has changed a lot since then, gaining more control over our daily lives, they argued. Mr Cameron said: "It is time for the British people to have their say. It is time to settle this European question in British politics."
Prime Minister David Cameron promised to hold one if he won the 2015 general election, in response to growing calls from his own Conservative MPs and the UK Independence Party (UKIP), who argued that Britain had not had a say since 1975, when it voted to stay in the EU in a referendum. The EU has changed a lot since then, gaining more control over our daily lives, they argued. Mr Cameron said: "It is time for the British people to have their say. It is time to settle this European question in British politics."
#164
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Prime Minister David Cameron promised to hold one if he won the 2015 general election, in response to growing calls from his own Conservative MPs and the UK Independence Party (UKIP), who argued that Britain had not had a say since 1975, when it voted to stay in the EU in a referendum. The EU has changed a lot since then, gaining more control over our daily lives, they argued. Mr Cameron said: "It is time for the British people to have their say. It is time to settle this European question in British politics."
I mean, him being strongly of the remain opinion and being relatively well knowledgeable of the how "wise" the general public is, was it a simple task of looking like a good, fair guy that made him do it. Or some other politics? It was (IS) a huge risk if he really believes leaving is bad for the country. He could have fought tooth and nail in the opposite direction - i.e. no need for any voting on the matter.
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I'd already read this when I asked the question of why he couldn't have left Pandora's box alone. Didn't make sense to me.
I mean, him being strongly of the remain opinion and being relatively well knowledgeable of the how "wise" the general public is, was it a simple task of looking like a good, fair guy that made him do it. Or some other politics? It was (IS) a huge risk if he really believes leaving is bad for the country. He could have fought tooth and nail in the opposite direction - i.e. no need for any voting on the matter.
I mean, him being strongly of the remain opinion and being relatively well knowledgeable of the how "wise" the general public is, was it a simple task of looking like a good, fair guy that made him do it. Or some other politics? It was (IS) a huge risk if he really believes leaving is bad for the country. He could have fought tooth and nail in the opposite direction - i.e. no need for any voting on the matter.
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