Consequences of the UK leaving Europe
Jun 26th 2016, 11:49 pm
#421
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Re: Consequences of the UK leaving Europe
Come on Pulaski, have you not read anything I've posted today?
Merits of in and out are a bit moot now, don't you think? This thread is about the consequences of the UK leaving Europe. A part of that for me is concern about my pension. Other consequences are being well covered by others.
Another consequence for my family is my son's education in Europe. All sorts of things which may be personal to me but are also applicable to a much wider population.
Merits of in and out are a bit moot now, don't you think? This thread is about the consequences of the UK leaving Europe. A part of that for me is concern about my pension. Other consequences are being well covered by others.
Another consequence for my family is my son's education in Europe. All sorts of things which may be personal to me but are also applicable to a much wider population.
If we are talking about any Government paid benefit long term then you have reason to be concerned, but that is not a Brexit issue.
Jun 27th 2016, 12:11 am
#422
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Re: Consequences of the UK leaving Europe
< snip > I have no idea what you're trying to prove much of the time.
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Jun 27th 2016, 12:15 am
#423
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Re: Consequences of the UK leaving Europe
It is a fair comment, many people I know have expressed the same thought, that if Crooked gets in with appointments coming up it is seriously bad news.
Jun 27th 2016, 1:13 am
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Re: Consequences of the UK leaving Europe
Why?
A. It's not working so well in the US, and if Hillary wins and packs the Supreme Court - as she will and she will - we are well on our way to becoming a one-party authoritarian state.
B. In our country you only have to Press 1 for English or Press 2 for Spanish. There aren't enough buttons on your phones to cover all the languages and cultures in Europe - and that's before the migrants flooded in and added Arabic, Farsi, Pashto and Dari to the mix.
Now...there was a chance for a mega state of Europe, back in 1939 - 1942, however not so many folks liked it much at the time. But times have changed and a close majority are total wusses. Germany is ready with a kinder, gentler version of the mega state. Your liberties and your sovereignty are for sale - real cheap - just a slight bump in your pensions and a little reassurance that everything will be OK should do the trick.
A. It's not working so well in the US, and if Hillary wins and packs the Supreme Court - as she will and she will - we are well on our way to becoming a one-party authoritarian state.
B. In our country you only have to Press 1 for English or Press 2 for Spanish. There aren't enough buttons on your phones to cover all the languages and cultures in Europe - and that's before the migrants flooded in and added Arabic, Farsi, Pashto and Dari to the mix.
Now...there was a chance for a mega state of Europe, back in 1939 - 1942, however not so many folks liked it much at the time. But times have changed and a close majority are total wusses. Germany is ready with a kinder, gentler version of the mega state. Your liberties and your sovereignty are for sale - real cheap - just a slight bump in your pensions and a little reassurance that everything will be OK should do the trick.
Jun 27th 2016, 2:14 am
#426
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Re: Consequences of the UK leaving Europe
Current chief justice Roberts is pretty good proof you can pick a guy you think will do your bidding only to find that pesky separation of powers thing actually works.
Jun 27th 2016, 2:24 am
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Re: Consequences of the UK leaving Europe
There are I understand quite a few appointments coming up, so it could be an issue for a generation.
I would prefer an independent court but not how it works.
I would prefer an independent court but not how it works.
Jun 27th 2016, 2:57 am
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Re: Consequences of the UK leaving Europe
As someone that voted to remain, I do agree that a United States of Europe was not something I wanted to see.
Jun 27th 2016, 3:46 am
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Re: Consequences of the UK leaving Europe
I was thinking when walking the dog, OK I do not like what the EU has become and remain convinced that it like all other previous dynasties will eventually fall, surprised it has lasted this long.
But the way things are going it is going to get very messy, much more than it should. Politics and egos etc.
But then my Parents went through WW2, My Grandparents also through WW1, so relative to those situations this looks minor. I remember the 3 day week, was that not far worse?
But the way things are going it is going to get very messy, much more than it should. Politics and egos etc.
But then my Parents went through WW2, My Grandparents also through WW1, so relative to those situations this looks minor. I remember the 3 day week, was that not far worse?
Jun 27th 2016, 3:54 am
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Re: Consequences of the UK leaving Europe
I was thinking when walking the dog, OK I do not like what the EU has become and remain convinced that it like all other previous dynasties will eventually fall, surprised it has lasted this long.
But the way things are going it is going to get very messy, much more than it should. Politics and egos etc.
But then my Parents went through WW2, My Grandparents also through WW1, so relative to those situations this looks minor. I remember the 3 day week, was that not far worse?
But the way things are going it is going to get very messy, much more than it should. Politics and egos etc.
But then my Parents went through WW2, My Grandparents also through WW1, so relative to those situations this looks minor. I remember the 3 day week, was that not far worse?
I worry a bit about the economic impact, and it may well not be pretty. I worry more about the breakup of the UK (happy 90th, Queen E), and about what kind of a country we are becoming when views that would never have been given a platform before are now on the national stage. I remember the NF marches in England, but they were considered beyond the pale by everyone else. It's depressing, but it also makes me want to go home and help deal with it somehow.
Jun 27th 2016, 3:59 am
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Re: Consequences of the UK leaving Europe
You may be comfortably off and your retirement not at risk, but others are not so lucky.
I thought this referendum was won "for the ordinary person"?
Jun 27th 2016, 4:06 am
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Re: Consequences of the UK leaving Europe
In the same situation as you with respect to your last para.
I worry a bit about the economic impact, and it may well not be pretty. I worry more about the breakup of the UK (happy 90th, Queen E), and about what kind of a country we are becoming when views that would never have been given a platform before are now on the national stage. I remember the NF marches in England, but they were considered beyond the pale by everyone else. It's depressing, but it also makes me want to go home and help deal with it somehow.
I worry a bit about the economic impact, and it may well not be pretty. I worry more about the breakup of the UK (happy 90th, Queen E), and about what kind of a country we are becoming when views that would never have been given a platform before are now on the national stage. I remember the NF marches in England, but they were considered beyond the pale by everyone else. It's depressing, but it also makes me want to go home and help deal with it somehow.
My basic view is that the EU is not an organisation for all seasons, only good times, people joined for what they thought they could get out of it, never set up for bad times. Very difficult to defend when the warts and all are so visible.
Lots of things will be overlooked if the general direction is positive.
Jun 27th 2016, 4:59 am
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Re: Consequences of the UK leaving Europe
It appears from the news media that there was not any real plan made in the event of the leave vote winning. That is a big concern, more than just the leave aspect. It appears to be a ship with no one at the helm.
Jun 27th 2016, 5:20 am
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Re: Consequences of the UK leaving Europe
Seems that there is no majority to recognise the vote in Parliament.
No plans
No Prime Minister
I thought there was always a contingent plan?
Jun 27th 2016, 5:27 am
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Re: Consequences of the UK leaving Europe
Who are you to say that someone doesn't need their retirement income or that it constitutes "selling" their country?
You may be comfortably off and your retirement not at risk, but others are not so lucky.
I thought this referendum was won "for the ordinary person"?
You may be comfortably off and your retirement not at risk, but others are not so lucky.
I thought this referendum was won "for the ordinary person"?
The same may happen here if the Globalist Hillary tries to impose a globalist agenda with more phony trade agreements, doesn't try to resolve the border crisis, etc.
We either solve our problems politically or you have a civil war.