Originally Posted by Pulaski

There is a cancer in a number if countries that politicians seem unwilling or unable to deal with, and people are increasingly sick of it. Something will have to change.

Originally Posted by Nutek

Wonder how The Life of Brian would go down if they switched out the religion in question.

Originally Posted by Nutek

Possibly they are clean away, but hopefully not.

Originally Posted by Boiler

It is a very tricky one for some sections of the media to deal with, the Pen comment is an example.

I read the Guardian on line and you can see the same confusion in their coverage.

Originally Posted by Nutek

[Politically Correct cartoon]

Originally Posted by Pulaski

That's what happens when you argue without any solid moral foundation. If you want unfettered freedom from personal responsibility and from peer pressure to conform to society's norms, things can get mighty confusing.


I think you've just offended some Eskimos.

Originally Posted by Pulaski

The difference is that the overwhelming majority of the "Christian community" (whatever that means) are as repulsed by the likes of M Veigh and Brevik, and in the US many Christians are fully supportive of the death penalty for such heinous acts, where as the muslim community is apparently (very obviously) at least passively tolerant of the terrorists in their midst, and It is well documented that certain mosques have supportive groups of like-minded individuals, and neither islamic leaders or the muslims who attend those mosques seem to be even trying to do anything to excise the cancer in their midst nor even to distance themselves from such extremist groups.

The analogy goes all the way to "the top of the house", where the Pope and other Christian leaders call for peace, out reach and reconciliation, whereas the Mad Mullahs of Tehran and other muslim leaders with a public platform often have a very different message to convey.

Originally Posted by Pulaski

The difference is that the overwhelming majority of the "Christian community" (whatever that means) are as repulsed by the likes of McVeigh

Originally Posted by hungryhorace

I have lots of views on what has happened today. But ultimately I just feel immense sadness.

Tears formed when I saw the police officer already wounded and lying with his hands up get executed with a single shot to the temple.

Devastating. Brutal. I cried.

A very sad. HH.

Originally Posted by hoffage123

This is what I mean - yes there are certain hardline mosques as there are certain hardline churches or other groups. With reference to condemnation of the acts, I have read plenty of condemnation today online from faith representatives like Tariq Ramadan (UK), Ismael Menk (UAE)and others - there was a whole social media campaign recently #notinmyname that reflected mainstream Muslim opinion against extremism. It is there but it isn't trendy enough for widespread awareness. There is a rubric that Muslims=bad and against everyone, which isn't true.

Originally Posted by hoffage123

There is a rubric that Muslims=bad

Originally Posted by hoffage123

This is what I mean - yes there are certain hardline mosques as there are certain hardline churches or other groups. With reference to condemnation of the acts, I have read plenty of condemnation today online from faith representatives like Tariq Ramadan (UK), Ismael Menk (UAE)and others - there was a whole social media campaign recently #notinmyname that reflected mainstream Muslim opinion against extremism. It is there but it isn't trendy enough for widespread awareness. There is a rubric that Muslims=bad and against everyone, which isn't true.

Originally Posted by hungryhorace

I have lots of views on what has happened today. But ultimately I just feel immense sadness.

Tears formed when I saw the police officer already wounded and lying with his hands up get executed with a single shot to the temple.

Devastating. Brutal. I cried.

A very sad. HH.