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albanks2542 Jul 19th 2017 9:56 pm

Charlie Gard granted U.S Citizenship by congress
 
According to MSN Charlie Gard and his parents have been granted U.S Citizenship by congress. The floodgates will likely open now given that they have in not so many words granted asylum to British parents. And if they make one sick child American citizen they have to make all american citizens.

I wonder if they will now grant citizenship to Andre Patterson :rofl:. He could try I suppose :sarcasm:

scrubbedexpat099 Jul 19th 2017 9:59 pm

Re: Charlie Gard granted U.S Citizenship by congress
 
:rofl: Permanent Resident

MSN as a news source?

kimilseung Jul 19th 2017 10:22 pm

Re: Charlie Gard granted U.S Citizenship by congress
 
This is a total disgrace to use the immigration system to grant him resident status, just to highlight the perceived flaws of socialised medicine, while halting immigration from war zones.

Pollyana Jul 19th 2017 10:24 pm

Re: Charlie Gard granted U.S Citizenship by congress
 

Originally Posted by kimilseung (Post 12298149)
This is a total disgrace to use the immigration system to grant him resident status, just to highlight the perceived flaws of socialised medicine, while halting immigration from war zones.

Especially as there is very little chance of the promised treatment making any difference to his condition or quality of life.
Totally disgraceful for so many reasons, poor little kid.

BEVS Jul 19th 2017 10:24 pm

Re: Charlie Gard granted U.S Citizenship by congress
 

Originally Posted by kimilseung (Post 12298149)
This is a total disgrace to use the immigration system to grant him resident status, just to highlight the perceived flaws of socialised medicine, while halting immigration from war zones.


You have written my own thoughts.

Utterly disgusting and beyond contemptible.

Nutmegger Jul 19th 2017 10:25 pm

Re: Charlie Gard granted U.S Citizenship by congress
 

Originally Posted by kimilseung (Post 12298149)
This is a total disgrace to use the immigration system to grant him resident status, just to highlight the perceived flaws of socialised medicine, while halting immigration from war zones.


The whole situation is a disgrace -- they make a big exhibition of all this compassion for a British child, but show none for their own citizens as they try to rip away any semblance of healthcare.

kimilseung Jul 19th 2017 10:25 pm

Re: Charlie Gard granted U.S Citizenship by congress
 
It has been numerous news sources who have been reporting it as citizenship in headlines, despite saying it was residency in the article body.

albanks2542 Jul 19th 2017 10:35 pm

Re: Charlie Gard granted U.S Citizenship by congress
 

Originally Posted by kimilseung (Post 12298154)
It has been numerous news sources who have been reporting it as citizenship in headlines, despite saying it was residency in the article body.

It would have to be citizenship because having a U.S green card won't do spit to change the mind of the english courts he may now be a U.S Resident but he is a first and foremost a British Citizen and the British courts will have the final say. Anything short of USC would be meaningless gesture. Though I fail to see how being an american citizen would make a blind bit of difference to the english courts?

kimilseung Jul 19th 2017 10:38 pm

Re: Charlie Gard granted U.S Citizenship by congress
 

Originally Posted by albanks2542 (Post 12298157)
It would have to be citizenship because having a U.S green card won't do spit to change the mind of the english courts he may now be a U.S Resident but he is a first and foremost a British Citizen and the British courts will have the final say. Anything short of USC would be meaningless gesture. Though I fail to see how being an american citizen would make a blind bit of difference to the english courts?

The claims concerning citizenship are at best in quote marks with no attribution or citation, the actual quotes attributed to lawmakers are saying "residency". That's all I know,

kimilseung Jul 19th 2017 10:45 pm

Re: Charlie Gard granted U.S Citizenship by congress
 

Originally Posted by albanks2542 (Post 12298157)
It would have to be citizenship because having a U.S green card won't do spit to change the mind of the english courts he may now be a U.S Resident but he is a first and foremost a British Citizen and the British courts will have the final say. Anything short of USC would be meaningless gesture. Though I fail to see how being an american citizen would make a blind bit of difference to the english courts?

Those that passed this amendment dont really care if he comes or not. (Other perhaps than the member with a family member with similar medical issue: Jaime Herrera Beutler) It also needs to be passed in both houses, before its even a thing. It only got passed in a committee.

BritInParis Jul 19th 2017 10:48 pm

Re: Charlie Gard granted U.S Citizenship by congress
 
I saw the same in a Daily Mail headline on Facebook - headline screams 'US citizenship for Charlie' but the article states it's actually Lawful Permanent Residence aka a Green Card for the child and his parents. Even if he was given US citizenship it wouldn't make a scrap of difference to the High Court ruling and the ability to remove him from the UK.

Pulaski Jul 19th 2017 11:25 pm

Re: Charlie Gard granted U.S Citizenship by congress
 

Originally Posted by BritInParis (Post 12298167)
..... Even if he was given US citizenship it wouldn't make a scrap of difference to the High Court ruling and the ability to remove him from the UK.

And nor should it, given that the US is willing to execute dual citizens.

moneypenny20 Jul 20th 2017 12:58 am

Re: Charlie Gard granted U.S Citizenship by congress
 
That poor little boy :(

Jerseygirl Jul 20th 2017 1:25 am

Re: Charlie Gard granted U.S Citizenship by congress
 

Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 12298204)
That poor little boy :(

Yup...but I wonder what you or I would do in similar circumstances? We may think we know...but...:unsure:

tom169 Jul 20th 2017 1:54 am

Re: Charlie Gard granted U.S Citizenship by congress
 
Ok serious question here:

Would the baby have to become a US citizen by some sort of act and also renounce British citizenship in order for him to travel against the UK high court's order?


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