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There have been a few threads on shipping cars with household effects in a container. Personally I prefer Roll on Roll off where available as having a car in a container greatly increases the chances of the container being flagged for intensive examination.

Someone I know just had a container held for six weeks by Customs, the charge for the demurrage was $6000.I am in now way suggesting this will happen to every container with a car in it this is just an example of what costs can be incurred. There were two Land Rovers this particular one which are almost always inspected. No issues were found and the shipment was finally released.The last charge I heard for just a car for a similar period was $700.

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Someone I know just had a container held for six weeks by Customs, the charge for the demurrage was $6000.I am in now way suggesting this will happen to every container with a car in it this is just an example of what costs can be incurred. There were two Land Rovers this particular one which are almost always inspected. No issues were found and the shipment was finally released.The last charge I heard for just a car for a similar period was $700.
Yeah, just cost me 5grand for two 101fc landies, the bastards didnt even take anythibg out of them to look.
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..... two 101fc landies, .....
Probably my ultimate dream vehicle, ahead of an M5 and a new Mustang 350 GT.
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Yeah, just cost me 5grand for two 101fc landies, the bastards didnt even take anythibg out of them to look.
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Probably my ultimate dream vehicle, ahead of an M5 and a new Mustang 350 GT.
One of ours in action a fortnight ago:



Can't wait to get it on the road too
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One of ours in action a fortnight ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfTLeLONTv4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n8_Eydbwfg Can't wait to get it on the road too
Was that at the MAR ?
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Was that at the MAR ?
No, the ROVERS fall trials in Robesonia. Lots of fun and very friendly crowd of people.
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There have been a few threads on shipping cars with household effects in a container. Personally I prefer Roll on Roll off where available as having a car in a container greatly increases the chances of the container being flagged for intensive examination.

Someone I know just had a container held for six weeks by Customs, the charge for the demurrage was $6000.I am in now way suggesting this will happen to every container with a car in it this is just an example of what costs can be incurred. There were two Land Rovers this particular one which are almost always inspected. No issues were found and the shipment was finally released.The last charge I heard for just a car for a similar period was $700.
The likely reason the Land Rovers were given the full body cavity treatment is because people used to import Defenders into the US that were not 25 years or older and were not imported via a US government certified Registered Importer who had the authority to modify the vehicle to comply with DOT and EPA regs.

Defenders were/are much sought after here owing to LandRover selling very limited numbers here, so there was a huge incentive to bring over these Grey Market / Illegal vehicle imports.

Back in the 90s I looked into bringing over a Defender but gave up on the idea when I couldn't find a suitable US importer authorised to conform the vehicle to EPA and DOT regs. I finally ended up buying 1 of the 500 Defender 110s that were imported in 1993 only.

Customs guys are always on the lookout for people trying to quietly smuggle in non US conforming vehicles that are highly sought after over here,so that maybee why they especially inspect Containerized vehicles.
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Probably my ultimate dream vehicle, ahead of an M5 and a new Mustang 350 GT.
A Unimog would do everything the FC would and more.
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The likely reason the Land Rovers were given the full body cavity treatment is because people used to import Defenders into the US that were not 25 years or older and were not imported via a US government certified Registered Importer who had the authority to modify the vehicle to comply with DOT and EPA regs. Defenders were/are much sought after here owing to LandRover selling very limited numbers here, so there was a huge incentive to bring over these Grey Market / Illegal vehicle imports. Back in the 90s I looked into bringing over a Defender but gave up on the idea when I couldn't find a suitable US importer authorised to conform the vehicle to EPA and DOT regs. I finally ended up buying 1 of the 500 Defender 110s that were imported in 1993 only. Customs guys are always on the lookout for people trying to quietly smuggle in non US conforming vehicles that are highly sought after over here,so that maybee why they especially inspect Containerized vehicles.
Customs are now being pressured by Jaguar Land Rover North America to ensure the Rovers are as close as possible to their original specs, they are the only company to have this policy.
A few years ago engines could be upgraded and galvanized chassis along with left hand drive conversions were permitted. These are now no longer allowed.
The main issue was to take the VIN plate from an old legal age car in a scrapyard and put it on a new Rover, this was clearly illegal plus the insurance would likely be invalid.
If there is a suspected issue with a Rover Customs refer it to the DOT who in turn refer it to JLNA who will verify the engine and chassis are of the correct type. This takes a while usually.
In the case of the 40 Rovers last year seized by Homeland Security I understand incorrect information was given by JLNA on some of them. The cars were later released thanks to a lawyer in North Carolina.
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A Unimog would do everything the FC would and more.
So?

A Unimog (i) isn't a Landrover, (ii) isn't a limited edition, and (iii) isn't (IMO) attractive. If you gave me a Unimog I would sell it without a second thought to buy a 101.
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So?

A Unimog (i) isn't a Landrover, (ii) isn't a limited edition, and (iii) isn't (IMO) attractive. If you gave me a Unimog I would sell it without a second thought to buy a 101.


i) right answer
ii) right answer
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So?

A Unimog (i) isn't a Landrover, (ii) isn't a limited edition, and (iii) isn't (IMO) attractive. If you gave me a Unimog I would sell it without a second thought to buy a 101.
Quite attractive , from a Utilitarian and industrial design standpoint.

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Quite attractive , from a Utilitarian and industrial design standpoint. .....[/URL]
Beauty is obviously in the eye of the beholder, ..... but the entire cab (everything painted blue) is an utter pigs breakfast. I don't see it as being in the least bit "utilitarian", more like something from the "trying very hard to make a silk purse out of sows eye" school of vehicle styling.

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Beauty is obviously in the eye of the beholder, ..... But the entire cab (everything painted blue) is an utter pigs breakfast. I don't see it as being in the least bit "utilitarian", more like something from the "trying very hard to make a silk purse out of sows eye" school of vehicle styling.
I can condense that into 2 words: plug ugly.
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I can condense that into 2 words: plug ugly.
I've seen more attractive plugs.

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