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Can I drive into Canada and not quarantine since I am vaccinated?
Was fully vaccinated back in late Feb or early March. Got the card to prove it. Pfizer vaccine.
So can I drive into Canada and not be required to quarantine ? I want to drive into Canada to pick up some stuff and return to the US the same day. |
Re: Can I drive into Canada and not quarantine since I am vaccinated?
Looks like Canada still won't allow non essential travel from the US, even if one is vaccinated.
https://travel.gc.ca/travel-covid/tr...-none-optional |
Re: Can I drive into Canada and not quarantine since I am vaccinated?
The same goes for a fully vaccinated Canadian wishing to go to the US.
Talks are ongoing about reopening. While Canada has the highest percentage of 1st dose vaccination unfortunately it is behind on 2nd dose vaccinations. |
Re: Can I drive into Canada and not quarantine since I am vaccinated?
I don't understand why they won't let in vaccinated Americans and not require they quarantine. The science says vaccinated have a negligible chance of contracting the virus.
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Re: Can I drive into Canada and not quarantine since I am vaccinated?
Originally Posted by Boomhauer
(Post 13016847)
The science says vaccinated have a negligible chance of contracting the virus.
Have you seen the daily infection rates in the UK that are 5 times what they were a month ago, despite the success of the vaccine rollout? Fortunately the death rates haven't increased in line with that but the infections are happening. |
Re: Can I drive into Canada and not quarantine since I am vaccinated?
Originally Posted by Boomhauer
(Post 13016847)
I don't understand why they won't let in vaccinated Americans and not require they quarantine. The science says vaccinated have a negligible chance of contracting the virus.
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Re: Can I drive into Canada and not quarantine since I am vaccinated?
Originally Posted by Boomhauer
(Post 13016847)
I don't understand why they won't let in vaccinated Americans and not require they quarantine. The science says vaccinated have a negligible chance of contracting the virus.
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Re: Can I drive into Canada and not quarantine since I am vaccinated?
Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian
(Post 13016846)
The same goes for a fully vaccinated Canadian wishing to go to the US.
Talks are ongoing about reopening. While Canada has the highest percentage of 1st dose vaccination unfortunately it is behind on 2nd dose vaccinations. |
Re: Can I drive into Canada and not quarantine since I am vaccinated?
Originally Posted by BristolUK
(Post 13016879)
Can you provide a link to something that says negligible rather than, say, a reduced risk, which is not the same thing at all.
Have you seen the daily infection rates in the UK that are 5 times what they were a month ago, despite the success of the vaccine rollout? Fortunately the death rates haven't increased in line with that but the infections are happening. There have been several real-world studies, in the U.S., in Israel, in the U.K., that really show a profound reduction in asymptomatic infection and carriage after vaccination, particularly with the mRNA vaccines. Marshall: So, what about those breakthrough cases, though? We've heard a lot about people who still get COVID after the vaccine. So that might make them a little more cautious when it comes to, you know, going back into the office, even if everyone is vaccinated. Kelley: Yeah, absolutely. So breakthrough infections are occurring. They are extremely rare. Marshall: When you say "extremely rare," Dr. Kelley, what does that look like? Kelley: Well, so it's less than, you know, 0.01%, so far, of people who have been vaccinated have been reported as having a breakthrough infection. We do not have very high levels of surveillance across the country to say with any certainty what number of breakthrough infections are occurring amongst all vaccinees, but it is a very, very, very small percentage of people who have been vaccinated. What we do know is that those folks who do have those breakthrough infections, oftentimes they're not symptomatic. And if they are symptomatic, it's extremely mild symptoms that they're experiencing. And so that means the vaccine worked exactly as we hoped it would, and that it turns COVID into a rare event. And when it does occur, it's a very mild infection, something akin to a cold that people get or used to get every single year before masks were worn so widely. |
Re: Can I drive into Canada and not quarantine since I am vaccinated?
Originally Posted by Jsmth321
(Post 13017016)
At least the US left open the air travel loophole for Canadian's. :lol:
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Re: Can I drive into Canada and not quarantine since I am vaccinated?
Originally Posted by Boomhauer
(Post 13017061)
"negligible" was my take. I suppose I shouldn't have said it. My take is predicated from listening to radio and reading articles like the below.
I think this part is key Well, so it's less than, you know, 0.01%, so far, of people who have been vaccinated have been reported as having a breakthrough infection. We do not have very high levels of surveillance across the country to say with any certainty what number of breakthrough infections are occurring amongst all vaccinees, but it is a very, very, very small percentage of people who have been vaccinated. Given that the vax reduces the severity if you do get it, it follows that symptoms will also be reduced. So even fewer people than previously will be feeling symptoms so fewer are likely to get tested. Yet the UK daily new case figures are five times what they were a month ago. In a country doing very well with the vaccines. Not bad cases obviously but it's still spreading - perhaps because it's Delta. And while it's still spreading and people are still being infected, there's the possibility of other strains that might be worse. Also, long covid could still be something to come. People have been getting this even though they may not have been too badly affected at the time they got covid. Do we know that long covid problems only happen if you had a bad case of covid? What if the vax stops you feeling 'that bad' but you still get the issues that result in long covid? I'm not trying to be glass half empty I just think that we should at least wait until plenty are fully vaccinated before taking a chance on things that, quite honestly, are either not 'essential' or can be neutralised with a little inconvenience. |
Re: Can I drive into Canada and not quarantine since I am vaccinated?
Originally Posted by BristolUK
(Post 13017147)
Thanks for the link.
I think this part is key Also, pre-vax days people with symptoms and those potentially exposed (traced etc) would get tested. Given that the vax reduces the severity if you do get it, it follows that symptoms will also be reduced. So even fewer people than previously will be feeling symptoms so fewer are likely to get tested. Yet the UK daily new case figures are five times what they were a month ago. In a country doing very well with the vaccines. Not bad cases obviously but it's still spreading - perhaps because it's Delta. And while it's still spreading and people are still being infected, there's the possibility of other strains that might be worse. Also, long covid could still be something to come. People have been getting this even though they may not have been too badly affected at the time they got covid. Do we know that long covid problems only happen if you had a bad case of covid? What if the vax stops you feeling 'that bad' but you still get the issues that result in long covid? I'm not trying to be glass half empty I just think that we should at least wait until plenty are fully vaccinated before taking a chance on things that, quite honestly, are either not 'essential' or can be neutralised with a little inconvenience. |
Re: Can I drive into Canada and not quarantine since I am vaccinated?
Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian
(Post 13016846)
The same goes for a fully vaccinated Canadian wishing to go to the US.
Talks are ongoing about reopening. While Canada has the highest percentage of 1st dose vaccination unfortunately it is behind on 2nd dose vaccinations. Or a Canadian citizen, i.e. my step-daughter, who cannot return to Canada without facing a 14 day quarantine upon entry. |
Re: Can I drive into Canada and not quarantine since I am vaccinated?
Originally Posted by robin1234
(Post 13017153)
Reading your post, and the information in Boomhauer’s post to which you are responding, makes me wonder why CDC in the US encouraged individuals to stop wearing masks (and encouraged states and businesses to drop all mask mandates.) .
I'm not sure 'encouraged' to stop wearing masks is right, mind you...more a case of they don't have to. :unsure: My impression anyway. |
Re: Can I drive into Canada and not quarantine since I am vaccinated?
Reading your post, and the information in Boomhauer’s post to which you are responding, makes me wonder why CDC in the US encouraged individuals to stop wearing masks (and encouraged states and businesses to drop all mask mandates.) . Any way, I think they largely did it because the vaccinated population wanted to see some 'reward' for being vaccinated, it really had little do with the science. Especially when you consider that the same demographic that were resisting mask mandates are the same demographic that aren't going to get vaccinated. |
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