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Old Jan 29th 2021, 1:56 pm
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Originally Posted by Lion in Winter
I struggle with this one when I try to work out if I'm being British or American.

"I et my lunch at 12 noon" - indicating a thing that happened in the past. Is this the passe simple/historique (sorry, French A level, not sure about the English grammar of it) equivalent? And is "I ate my lunch" the American way of saying it, or just a different English way of saying it?
Hmm. All I know is past perfect vs. imperfect.
perfect = I have et my lunch (or eaten)
imperfect = I et my lunch (or ate)
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Originally Posted by robin1234
Hmm. All I know is past perfect vs. imperfect.
perfect = I have et my lunch (or eaten)
imperfect = I et my lunch (or ate)
"Et" sounds very dialect to me, though I gather it is just old fashioned (which dialect so often is--like "gotten," which my father told me his mother had used way back when after I had said I disliked its usage in the US).

"Ate" or "Et" -- British Library Mulls Pronunciation
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Originally Posted by Nutmegger
"Et" sounds very dialect to me, though I gather it is just old fashioned (which dialect so often is--like "gotten," which my father told me his mother had used way back when after I had said I disliked its usage in the US).

"Ate" or "Et" -- British Library Mulls Pronunciation
One part of the linked article has me puzzling.
In turn, the young linguistic upstarts often influence the mother tongue. Britons increasingly pronounce “schedule” in the American way – “schedule” rather than “shedule.”
I would never consider myself to be a 'young linguistic upstart' but have always pronounced schedule as 'skedyule' rather than 'shedyule'.
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Originally Posted by Nutmegger
"Et" sounds very dialect to me, though I gather it is just old fashioned (which dialect so often is--like "gotten," which my father told me his mother had used way back when after I had said I disliked its usage in the US).

"Ate" or "Et" -- British Library Mulls Pronunciation
In steveq's family the phrase "I've etten it, should I have done?" was often used in jest. I believe it was a line from a stage play but nobody could definitively say which play it was from.
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Originally Posted by BuckinghamshireBoy
One part of the linked article has me puzzling.

I would never consider myself to be a 'young linguistic upstart' but have always pronounced schedule as 'skedyule' rather than 'shedyule'.
Schedule is a funny one. I’ve always pronounced it the “American “ way, skedyule. Literally the only place where I’ve consistently heard it pronounced “shedyule” is CBC Radio - I think in some ways they’re more British than the BBC.
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Originally Posted by robin1234
Schedule is a funny one. I’ve always pronounced it the “American “ way, skedyule. Literally the only place where I’ve consistently heard it pronounced “shedyule” is CBC Radio - I think in some ways they’re more British than the BBC.
Despite all my decades of total US immersion, I still say shedyule!
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Originally Posted by Nutmegger
Despite all my decades of total US immersion, I still say shedyule!
'Shedyule' sounds very posh! That's probably why Aussies say skedyule
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Originally Posted by spouse of scouse
'Shedyule' sounds very posh! That's probably why Aussies say skedyule
Does it really? I’m gobsmacked! It never crossed my mind that a Brit would pronounce it any other way! Live and learn.
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Originally Posted by Nutmegger
Does it really? I’m gobsmacked! It never crossed my mind that a Brit would pronounce it any other way! Live and learn.
I'm not a Brit I'm dinky-di Aussie. It's the husband who's the Pom Brit
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Originally Posted by robin1234
Hmm. All I know is past perfect vs. imperfect.
perfect = I have et my lunch (or eaten)
imperfect = I et my lunch (or ate)

So to me it's:

perfect - I have eaten my lunch (compound verb)
simple past - I et or ate my lunch (it happened in the past at a distinct, finite, moment in time)
past imperfect - I was eating my lunch ("when the door burst open and the cat came in," for example)

I have et my lunch sounds regional to me.

Apologies for all grammar nazi elements here. This was just the way I learned to remember the differences when I learned French, so I would have some hope of getting my French verbs right.
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Originally Posted by spouse of scouse
I'm not a Brit I'm dinky-di Aussie. It's the husband who's the Pom Brit

Is that how you introduce him to people? Your Scouse Pom?
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I'm not a Brit I'm dinky-di Aussie. It's the husband who's the Pom Brit

I am imagining you saying that with a wonderful accent!!!! But Buckinghamshire Boy says that he has always used the K sound, and going by his name he's from the sceptered isle . . .
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I am interested in that expression "dinky-di" I know the meaning and have heard it often but what is the etymology ?
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Originally Posted by scot47
I am interested in that expression "dinky-di" I know the meaning and have heard it often but what is the etymology ?
I once read - long ago, and I don't recall where - that "fair dinkum" originated somewhere in Yorkshire. Wherever it began, I would presume that "dinki-di" began there too. Being a long-gone Aussie, I haven't heard "dinki-di" since 1963.

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