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hobbes79 Oct 26th 2009 3:13 am

Boring accent question... solder?
 
So I asked my (US) wife to pick me up a soldering iron and some solder

(needed to fix our baby monitor... long story)

She got to the store and asked where to find them, and said it how I would say it... solder.

The guy asked a couple of times and then said, "oh, sawder".

She came back and said I messed her up!

This is new one on me... it's clearly spelt the same on both sides of the Atlantic.

Is this a herb/'erb type thing i.e. Americans skipping certain letters in words for no particular rhyme or reason?? :)

sime303 Oct 26th 2009 3:17 am

Re: Boring accent question... solder?
 

Originally Posted by hobbes79 (Post 8046071)
So I asked my (US) wife to pick me up a soldering iron and some solder

(needed to fix our baby monitor... long story)

She got to the store and asked where to find them, and said it how I would say it... solder.

The guy asked a couple of times and then said, "oh, sawder".

She came back and said I messed her up!

This is new one on me... it's clearly spelt the same on both sides of the Atlantic.

Is this a herb/'erb type thing i.e. Americans skipping certain letters in words for no particular rhyme or reason?? :)

First time I heard it pronounced over here I thought they were saying sodder.

tonrob Oct 26th 2009 3:18 am

Re: Boring accent question... solder?
 

Originally Posted by hobbes79 (Post 8046071)
So I asked my (US) wife to pick me up a soldering iron and some solder

(needed to fix our baby monitor... long story)

She got to the store and asked where to find them, and said it how I would say it... solder.

The guy asked a couple of times and then said, "oh, sawder".

She came back and said I messed her up!

This is new one on me... it's clearly spelt the same on both sides of the Atlantic.

Is this a herb/'erb type thing i.e. Americans skipping certain letters in words for no particular rhyme or reason?? :)

I don't know the answer to your question, but I find U.S. hardware stores a hotbed of confusion at the best of times... :unsure:

another bloody yank Oct 26th 2009 3:20 am

Re: Boring accent question... solder?
 

Originally Posted by sime303 (Post 8046085)
First time I heard it pronounced over here I thought they were saying sodder.

That's how I say it.

sime303 Oct 26th 2009 3:21 am

Re: Boring accent question... solder?
 

Originally Posted by tonrob (Post 8046087)
I don't know the answer to your question, but I find U.S. hardware stores a hotbed of confusion at the best of times... :unsure:

Go in to Lowes and ask for a plastering float and watch the emloyee shutdown from overheating brainage.

sime303 Oct 26th 2009 3:22 am

Re: Boring accent question... solder?
 

Originally Posted by another bloody yank (Post 8046090)
That's how I say it.

I thought they were talking about female buggery.

Sally Redux Oct 26th 2009 3:22 am

Re: Boring accent question... solder?
 

Originally Posted by tonrob (Post 8046087)
I don't know the answer to your question, but I find U.S. hardware stores a hotbed of confusion at the best of times... :unsure:

My husband should know better by now but apparently asked for a 'trolley' last time he went in to buy a few bits and pieces - the guy returned with some huge contraption which could have moved a house.

another bloody yank Oct 26th 2009 3:24 am

Re: Boring accent question... solder?
 

Originally Posted by sime303 (Post 8046097)
I thought they were talking about female buggery.

I'm trying to imagine how it sounds with the L pronounced... soul-der? Saul-der?

Good thing I'm the only one in the office right now...

sime303 Oct 26th 2009 3:25 am

Re: Boring accent question... solder?
 

Originally Posted by another bloody yank (Post 8046104)
I'm trying to imagine how it sounds with the L pronounced... soul-der? Saul-der?

Good thing I'm the only one in the office right now...

LOL just like soldier but take the i out. Probably soul-der.

Sally Redux Oct 26th 2009 3:27 am

Re: Boring accent question... solder?
 

Originally Posted by sime303 (Post 8046105)
LOL just like soldier but take the i out. Probably soul-der.

Soldier sounds like 'soljer' though - you'll confuse him:lol:

sime303 Oct 26th 2009 3:29 am

Re: Boring accent question... solder?
 

Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 8046116)
Soldier sounds like 'soljer' though - you'll confuse him:lol:

:D but that's only because of the i.

hobbes79 Oct 26th 2009 3:38 am

Re: Boring accent question... solder?
 
I live and learn. Thanks everyone!

hobbes79 Oct 26th 2009 3:40 am

Re: Boring accent question... solder?
 
Main Entry: 1sol·der
Pronunciation: \ˈsä-dər, British also ˈsäl-dər, ˈsōl-\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English soudure, from Anglo-French, from souder to solder, from Latin solidare to make solid, from solidus solid
Date: 14th century
1 : a metal or metallic alloy used when melted to join metallic surfaces; especially : an alloy of lead and tin so used
2 : something that unites

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/solder

Of course, I could have just googled it :o

robin1234 Oct 26th 2009 4:05 am

Re: Boring accent question... solder?
 
I suspect that this is one of those instances where the current American pronunciation is the same as much earlier British pronunciation. First, the word was actually spelled without an "l" until the fifteenth century or so, according to the Oxford English Dictionary. It was spelled "sodder" and various and sundry variations. Second, A New Critical Pronouncing Dictionary of the English Language (1836) gives the american-style pronunciation (no "l") as the only option...

Ridski Oct 26th 2009 4:34 am

Re: Boring accent question... solder?
 
First time I heard the American pronunciation I was confused too. Did my FIL really just say he sodded something together? Really?


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