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petitefrancaise Apr 24th 2015 1:17 pm

Re: Blenders
 

Originally Posted by TopSec (Post 11628291)
Cant say I agree with this? My hubby is Type 2 diabetes and we started having smoothies 2 or 3 years ago made with berries, spinach, almond milk, yoghurt/cream and his sugars never spiked. We do miss out the sugary fruits like bananas, orange, melon etc and honey though.

You'll note that the strawberries came to only 3g of sugar and strawberries are low on fibre anyway so you're not missing too much with them.....I'll bet you use unsweetened almond milk as well. so, your sugar total would be very low compared to this example.

Try using myfitnesspal food diary where you can input various fruits to see the effect on the totals.

TopSec Apr 24th 2015 1:25 pm

Re: Blenders
 

Originally Posted by petitefrancaise (Post 11628297)
You'll note that the strawberries came to only 3g of sugar and strawberries are low on fibre anyway so you're not missing too much with them.....I'll bet you use unsweetened almond milk as well. so, your sugar total would be very low compared to this example.

Try using myfitnesspal food diary where you can input various fruits to see the effect on the totals.

Yep, you're right :) We tend to use the lower sugar fruits and unsweetened milk so his blood sugar remains pretty stable.

He uses a myfitnesspal app now and then, I tell him I just know it all ;)

Yorkieabroad Apr 24th 2015 2:16 pm

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[QUOTE=petitefrancaise;11628278]1)You're removing the fibre from the sugar, so you'll get a blood sugar spike since the fibre is no longer slowing down the absorption of the sugar. Pretty much the same as drinking normal orange juice.[UNQUOTE]

That's the sort of info I was looking for.


2) you're giving your teeth a massive hit of acid produced by sugar in one go - smoothies cause dental decay.
Less worried about that to be honest - I always brush after a meal anyway, so hopefully that will take care.



3)You'd never eat a whole banana, then strawberries, then watermelon, then an orange and then the kale......
with the exception of the kale, yes, I would and do. Also, this one made 2 cups, so I put one in the fridge for later (the wife had it when she got home:() and topped off with solid fruit an apple, which tasted bland :(


in your smoothie, the sugar content is:
Banana - 14g
Orange - 9
strawberries (?6) - 3g
Watermelon (avg serving size is 280g) -17g
Honey - tbspoon - 17g
total of 60g of sugar
Just weighed an equivalent amount of Watermelon and it was 93g, so reduce that to 6g sugar, gives a total of 49g sugar, say 25g/glass which is 3g less than the apple juice in the fridge, and 2g more than the orange pineapple, but the portion of the smoothie was probably about 12oz compared to 8oz for the bought juice. Not sure on the size I drank to be honest, but it was bigger than I would pour of straight orange.


What about the almond milk? Sweetened - vanilla flavour? = another 13g of sugar per cup measure of milk..
Unsweetened, plain, and according to the box 0g sugar


Don't forget that the sugar from fruit is primarily fructose which if not used for energy immediately is stored as fat.
Had it just before a bike ride.

So, as long as I a) look after my teeth, b) drink it just before energy expenditure, it's probably a reasonable drink/delivery system for this weeks favorite superfood which I wouldn't otherwise consume....and if I can get my fruit/veggie averse son to take it, its got to be an improvement for him. I think!

Yorkieabroad Apr 24th 2015 2:33 pm

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Ha, maybe kale is last weeks, rather than this weeks:lol:
This was in my Inbox this evening....

Move Over, Kale! What to Juice Now

TopSec Apr 24th 2015 2:42 pm

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Never heard of Aronia Berries?! Not sure they have them in Krogers! :p

GeoffM Apr 24th 2015 4:04 pm

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We have a Ninja thing. It's not great for consistency unless the stuff is liquidy enough to float around. But it tackles anything! A few days ago I was making tacos and, after not reading the label on the seasoned taco meat in the beef section, finding it was pork (against wife's religion), and thinking I CBA to defrost and chop whole chicken breasts, I though I'd quarter a breast and see what happened. Five seconds later: frozen quartered chicken breast turned into ground chicken breast!

We also use it for smoothies all the time, quite often frozen fruit at that. As above, if there's enough liquid then it's great. If your desired smoothie consistency is one you can stand a spoon upright in then probably not the best blender.

Yorkieabroad Apr 24th 2015 4:14 pm

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Lol...bet that went down well,with the wife!

I'm not looking for something that'll make them thick...I like them drinkable, but I guess that can always be controlled with the amount of liquids or wet fruit added. I'm more concerned with getting something that'll liquify everything and not leave lots of bits. The current test on the blendtec is proving that it can do that very well. The only downside in its performance that I've found so far is that it is so darn noisy - not too good for a quick smoothie when I'm sneaking out for an early morning ride!

AdobePinon Apr 24th 2015 4:32 pm

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The biggest difference is that with Vitamix / Blendtec, you're paying for something that will last forever. Stick with what you've got.

petitefrancaise Apr 25th 2015 3:20 am

Re: Blenders
 

Originally Posted by Yorkieabroad (Post 11628333)
Less worried about that to be honest - I always brush after a meal anyway, so hopefully that will take care.

and topped off with solid fruit an apple, which tasted bland :(



total of 49g sugar, say 25g/glass which is 3g less than the apple juice in the fridge, and 2g more than the orange pineapple, but the portion of the smoothie was probably about 12oz compared to 8oz for the bought juice. Not sure on the size I drank to be honest, but it was bigger than I would pour of straight orange.

So, as long as I a) look after my teeth, b) drink it just before energy expenditure, it's probably a reasonable drink/delivery system for this weeks favorite superfood which I wouldn't otherwise consume....and if I can get my fruit/veggie averse son to take it, its got to be an improvement for him. I think!

not quite....
Questions you should ask your dentist:
If I brush my teeth straight after drinking a smoothie containing fruit with about 25g of sugar will the acidic environment mean that brushing the enamel damages my teeth if I do this on a regular basis?
Will the acidic environment prevent the uptake of protective/remineralising fluoride from the toothpaste?
Would it be better if I drank my smoothie through a straw thereby minimising the amount of contact with the fruit juice?
Is it better to not drink any fruit juice anyway, including apple and orange juices since consumption of these can lead to excess sugar consumption which is bad for both my teeth and the rest of my body?

I would anticipate the answers to be "yes". But since I am not a registered dental health professional in the USA, I can't answer them for you.

If you ate an apple straight after the smoothie, then you just ate another 19g of sugar. Just saying.....;) Think total sugar loads per day.

If you want to fuel your body for a long bike ride or run then a blog that I follow (a doctor super athlete) recommends generation ucan. (Peter Attia, Eating Academy)

Yorkieabroad Apr 25th 2015 4:17 am

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[QUOTE=petitefrancaise;11628627]not quite....

Questions you should ask your dentist:
If I brush my teeth straight after drinking a smoothie containing fruit with about 25g of sugar will the acidic environment mean that brushing the enamel damages my teeth if I do this on a regular basis?
Will the acidic environment prevent the uptake of protective/remineralising fluoride from the toothpaste?
I know what he will say as have had this conversation before (not specifically smoothie related) - he is in the good brush before/light brush after eating camp. I never been able to get away with the "before" as the lingering taste puts me off my food!


Would it be better if I drank my smoothie through a straw thereby minimising the amount of contact with the fruit juice?
That's pretty standard advice for a lot of drinks, sodas etc, but just about the only time I use a straw is on iced tea....


Is it better to not drink any fruit juice anyway, including apple and orange juices since consumption of these can lead to excess sugar consumption which is bad for both my teeth and the rest of my body?
This has been a long topic of discussion with my sons dietitian, and she is firmly on the side of some/limited fruit juice is better than no fruit at all


I would anticipate the answers to be "yes". But since I am not a registered dental health professional in the USA, I can't answer them for you.
That's OK - it's not what I opened the thread for:p



If you ate an apple straight after the smoothie, then you just ate another 19g of sugar. Just saying.....;) Think total sugar loads per day.
Lol - I am looking at the blender to get more fruit into my son in a form he can stomach - show him this thread and he'll just firm up his opinion that fruit=work of the devil:lol: I've always eaten a lot of fruit, and a pretty wide variety, and always will. If I need a snack, I can think of a lot worse things to grab.....


If you want to fuel your body for a long bike ride or run then a blog that I follow (a doctor super athlete) recommends generation ucan. (Peter Attia, Eating Academy)
That one wasn't actually taken as a "fuel for the ride" drink, it just happened to be taken before I went on a ride. I wasn't aware of the sugar spike until you mentioned it, so that was just fortuitous, and something I'll bear in mind. It was only a 45 miler, so I don't really do any prep for those - just get up and go. To be honest, I'm not a massive fan of sports nutirtionists for the type of riding I do - ie a lot of 30-50 milers throughout the year, and 4-6 100+milers a year (less the last 2 years since son has started riding with me). The only time I have ever "bonked" on a ride was a hilly 80-miler that I prepped for with a nutritionist at the gym I was using at the time. I followed his lead up and ride plan meticulously,and it simply didn't work for me, so after that massively scientific sample, I went back to what I've always been doing and have never had a problem since. Actually, there was another ride I had a problem on which was a long one in the middle of summer, and I had a brief flirtation with hyponatremia, but when I realized what was happening, got it back under control pretty quickly (rest, pee, salted peanuts, pickle juice:sick: and off again with 1 empty and 1 fullbottle) and finished fine.

Anyway, straying way OT here - to try to get back on topic, do you have any views on any of the blenders, or are they all banned?;)

GeoffM Apr 25th 2015 4:21 am

Re: Blenders
 

Originally Posted by Yorkieabroad (Post 11628665)
Lol - I am looking at the blender to get more fruit into my son in a form he can stomach

Something I didn't mention was the veg I put in after the chicken - bell peppers, onions, carrots. Kids won't eat any of those three (well, maybe carrots) on their own, but blended to a pulp in the taco and it goes down a treat! :sneaky: Add some guacamole (home made, of course) and tacos are a great meal to sneak good stuff into the kids without any complaints at all!

Yorkieabroad Apr 25th 2015 4:34 am

Re: Blenders
 

Originally Posted by GeoffM (Post 11628669)
Something I didn't mention was the veg I put in after the chicken - bell peppers, onions, carrots. Kids won't eat any of those three (well, maybe carrots) on their own, but blended to a pulp in the taco and it goes down a treat! :sneaky: Add some guacamole (home made, of course) and tacos are a great meal to sneak good stuff into the kids without any complaints at all!

I do similar to get veggie into my eldest son - it's amazing what you can hide in spaghetti sauce! I've yet to try the blendtec on making a sauce - that will be dinner early this week, and early results suggest it may be quite a good "hider!"

My youngest (daughter) would eat any of those raw, straight out the fridge. My middle one (son) is good with veggies, as long as they are cooked. The eldest will not knowingly eat any solid fruit veg - he used to eat pretty much anything till he turned about 3, then he had a few episodes of projectile vomiting when he smelled certain fruit (mainly bananas, strawberries and watermelon) and he basically "shut down" from then on, no matter what we tried. And when I say projectile, it really was 3-4 foot horizontal spurts.It would have been quite impressive if it was someone else cleaning it up...:lol: The vomiting episodes lasted a few years, and now, at 13, he can just about handle the smell, but gets a look on his face similar to mine when the dog farts.

GeoffM Apr 25th 2015 5:12 am

Re: Blenders
 

Originally Posted by Yorkieabroad (Post 11628679)
I do similar to get veggie into my eldest son - it's amazing what you can hide in spaghetti sauce! I've yet to try the blendtec on making a sauce - that will be dinner early this week, and early results suggest it may be quite a good "hider!"

Ah yes, onions, garlic, tomato... personally I don't like strong tomato sauce so we don't have it that often.

One thing that surprises me is they love Filipino Adobo which is vinegar, soy sauce, garlic, onion, pepper, and ginger - forms a kind of stew. It's quite strong (well... my version is), and they don't like strong flavours, like most kids I suppose. But they lap it up. Can't complain!


Originally Posted by Yorkieabroad (Post 11628679)
The vomiting episodes lasted a few years, and now, at 13, he can just about handle the smell, but gets a look on his face similar to mine when the dog farts.

:rofl:

Yorkieabroad Apr 25th 2015 5:27 am

Re: Blenders
 

Originally Posted by AdobePinon (Post 11628359)
The biggest difference is that with Vitamix / Blendtec, you're paying for something that will last forever. Stick with what you've got.

I suspect sheer inertia will lead to exactly that end:lol:

kodokan Apr 25th 2015 5:32 am

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I add ground almond flour to breakfast smoothies, so the protein balances out the sugar hit and the kids don't crash at school before 10am - this one's great, as it's really fine with no skins, so doesn't make the smoothie in any way gritty:



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