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scrubbedexpat099 May 24th 2014 5:58 pm

7 dead in Drive by shooting in CA seems one English kid who could not handle it.
 
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...524-story.html

On his personal website, the man who made the videotape said he was born in England and raised in the San Fernando Valley.

scrubbedexpat099 May 24th 2014 6:52 pm

Re: 7 dead in Drive by shooting in CA seems one English kid who could not handle it.
 
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/...g-of-slaughter

Express has the video that was taken off You Tube.

Seems that despite his connection to the Movie industry he had no success with the Ladies and it came to this.

md95065 May 24th 2014 6:55 pm

Re: 7 dead in Drive by shooting in CA seems one English kid who could not handle it.
 

Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 11274494)
On his personal website, the man who made the videotape said he was born in England and raised in the San Fernando Valley.

Neither of which are likely to be particularly relevant to why he did what he did but, for now, it looks like that is all of the information that the media outlets have so that is what they are going to print.

scrubbedexpat099 May 24th 2014 7:01 pm

Re: 7 dead in Drive by shooting in CA seems one English kid who could not handle it.
 
Judging from the Express piece looks like it is all out there.

Most of it anyway.

md95065 May 24th 2014 7:09 pm

Re: 7 dead in Drive by shooting in CA seems one English kid who could not handle it.
 
Yes - just a crazy kid who was able to get his hands on semi-automatic weapons and then went out to kill as many people as he could ... :(

robin1234 May 24th 2014 7:20 pm

Re: 7 dead in Drive by shooting in CA seems one English kid who could not handle it.
 
Weird and sad phenomena going on. Apart from the easy access to deadly weapons aspect (guns don't kill people, etc. etc.....). Here we have an out of control sense of entitlement, stoked by social media and special interest Internet forums that seem to get people radicalized, fired up and ready to kill. This young man, for instance, felt it was a crime that attractive girls didn't like him, the logical outcome being that he was entitled to kill them.

scrubbedexpat099 May 24th 2014 7:37 pm

Re: 7 dead in Drive by shooting in CA seems one English kid who could not handle it.
 
He seemed to have a thing about blondes not liking him.

If he wanted to kill as many people as possible then there are better options.

Pulaski May 24th 2014 7:43 pm

Re: 7 dead in Drive by shooting in CA seems one English kid who could not handle it.
 

Originally Posted by md95065 (Post 11274558)
Yes - just a crazy kid who was able to get his hands on semi-automatic weapons and then went out to kill as many people as he could ...

The report referred to a "semi-automatic hand gun". It would be more remarkable if it was a hand gun that was not semi-automatic. :rolleyes:

md95065 May 24th 2014 8:03 pm

Re: 7 dead in Drive by shooting in CA seems one English kid who could not handle it.
 

Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 11274575)
The report referred to a "semi-automatic hand gun". It would be more remarkable if it was a hand gun that was not semi-automatic. :rolleyes:

OK - point taken - but it does make me wonder whether, perhaps, we should consider make flintlock muskets more readily available ...

scrubbedexpat099 May 24th 2014 9:06 pm

Re: 7 dead in Drive by shooting in CA seems one English kid who could not handle it.
 

Originally Posted by md95065 (Post 11274584)
OK - point taken - but it does make me wonder whether, perhaps, we should consider make flintlock muskets more readily available ...

You can get single action pistols, the ones I have seen have been for very specialist applications at high price. I remember one that looked like a bolt actioned rifle with a short barrel and no stock.

A shotgun would probably have been more effective in this situation but I doubt that was the point.

Sally Redux May 24th 2014 9:23 pm

Re: 7 dead in Drive by shooting in CA seems one English kid who could not handle it.
 
One news item described it as 'one for the record books'.

I was slightly worried on a personal level as my son has a good friend in Isla Vista and they sometimes visit eachother at weekends.

Lion in Winter May 24th 2014 9:38 pm

Re: 7 dead in Drive by shooting in CA seems one English kid who could not handle it.
 

Originally Posted by robin1234 (Post 11274565)
Weird and sad phenomena going on. Apart from the easy access to deadly weapons aspect (guns don't kill people, etc. etc.....). Here we have an out of control sense of entitlement, stoked by social media and special interest Internet forums that seem to get people radicalized, fired up and ready to kill. This young man, for instance, felt it was a crime that attractive girls didn't like him, the logical outcome being that he was entitled to kill them.

Exactly. How do you get from "girls don't like me/the teacher is picking on me/I haven't got many friends at school/I'm an unhappy teenager" to "I think I'l go and kill some people"? It seems to happen a lot.

scrubbedexpat099 May 24th 2014 9:40 pm

Re: 7 dead in Drive by shooting in CA seems one English kid who could not handle it.
 
He was 22, so in 3 years.

Sally Redux May 24th 2014 9:43 pm

Re: 7 dead in Drive by shooting in CA seems one English kid who could not handle it.
 

Originally Posted by Lion in Winter (Post 11274635)
Exactly. How do you get from "girls don't like me/the teacher is picking on me/I haven't got many friends at school/I'm an unhappy teenager" to "I think I'l go and kill some people"? It seems to happen a lot.

Just throwing it out there, having guns easily available?

Lion in Winter May 24th 2014 9:55 pm

Re: 7 dead in Drive by shooting in CA seems one English kid who could not handle it.
 

Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 11274639)
Just throwing it out there, having guns easily available?

No flies on you.:D

It's more than that though. There is something in the culture that works with the availability of weapons that makes this happen. Not sure what it is, but working on a theory that it's to do with the huge emphasis on consumption and acquisition and people not having a sense of who they are and what they are worth without counting up their piles of stuff. I realize that this is not scientific.:blink:


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