2020 Election
Jul 17th 2019, 2:30 pm
#751
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Re: 2020 Election
The system has been robust enough thus far to withstand Trump. Yes he's bombastic, yes he's a racist and a narcissist, but other than the tax cut what has he actually done? Certainly nothing that has truly provoked a constitutional crisis. It seems he blusters and obfuscates, and then nothing happens.
I don't see that changing if he is defeated next November unless the Dems lose the house, which, I grant you, is a possibility. If that happens then all bets are off.
I don't see that changing if he is defeated next November unless the Dems lose the house, which, I grant you, is a possibility. If that happens then all bets are off.
Jul 17th 2019, 2:49 pm
#752
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Re: 2020 Election
The system has been robust enough thus far to withstand Trump. Yes he's bombastic, yes he's a racist and a narcissist, but other than the tax cut what has he actually done? Certainly nothing that has truly provoked a constitutional crisis. It seems he blusters and obfuscates, and then nothing happens.
I don't see that changing if he is defeated next November unless the Dems lose the house, which, I grant you, is a possibility. If that happens then all bets are off.
I don't see that changing if he is defeated next November unless the Dems lose the house, which, I grant you, is a possibility. If that happens then all bets are off.
Jul 17th 2019, 3:03 pm
#753
Joined: Aug 2003
Location: East Seaxe
Posts: 72,505
Re: 2020 Election
The system has been robust enough thus far to withstand Trump. Yes he's bombastic, yes he's a racist and a narcissist, but other than the tax cut what has he actually done? Certainly nothing that has truly provoked a constitutional crisis. It seems he blusters and obfuscates, and then nothing happens.
I don't see that changing if he is defeated next November unless the Dems lose the house, which, I grant you, is a possibility. If that happens then all bets are off.
I don't see that changing if he is defeated next November unless the Dems lose the house, which, I grant you, is a possibility. If that happens then all bets are off.
Jul 17th 2019, 4:30 pm
#755
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Re: 2020 Election
But things do happen. The level to which he has taken the national dialogue alone has legitimized and stoked a series of appalling views on immigrants, women, people of colours other than white, Native Americans, disabled people, low-income people, and other countries as a whole. There is fall out from that.
The fact is that everyone on that side of the fence was on that side of the fence already, he's just saying it out loud and tacitly giving others permission to do the same. In some ways it's probably a good thing to get all the hate and vitriol of the right out into the open so that it can be swatted down again in time. It's not like it just went away, people just felt uncomfortable saying it loud but still thought it.
Hopefully this happens...
Jul 17th 2019, 4:52 pm
#756
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Re: 2020 Election
Just one example I think is in policing, it is not just the increase in video that helps us identify that there is systematic problems within the police. We are seeing what the community is like from which the police is drawn, how can the police not have issues of policing equitably?
Jul 17th 2019, 9:07 pm
#757
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Re: 2020 Election
Has anyone here been told to go back where they came from? I have a very few times. Mostly on my views on gun control, but generally quite the opposite, and more often told that I'm the kind of immigrant they want.Which is equally racist in a different way.
Jul 17th 2019, 9:08 pm
#758
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Re: 2020 Election
Yes I've been told that, not on gun control (since I own guns) but on the separation of church and state and abortion.
That's the bible belt for you.
That's the bible belt for you.
Last edited by civilservant; Jul 17th 2019 at 9:11 pm.
Jul 17th 2019, 9:09 pm
#759
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Re: 2020 Election
Never happened to me, certainly to my face anyway.
I also lean pretty far to the right so, probably helps...
I also lean pretty far to the right so, probably helps...
Jul 17th 2019, 9:22 pm
#760
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Re: 2020 Election
Kamala Harris: Trump needs to go back where he came from
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/...h-ebof-vpx.cnn
Jul 17th 2019, 9:28 pm
#761
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Re: 2020 Election
"Coming down here taking our jobs....."
Jul 17th 2019, 9:41 pm
#762
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Re: 2020 Election
We seem to be covering this on 2 threads, comes from both directions, one of Kamala Harris's tropes.Kamala Harris: Trump needs to go back where he came from
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/...h-ebof-vpx.cnn
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/...h-ebof-vpx.cnn
Jul 17th 2019, 9:47 pm
#763
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Re: 2020 Election
As far as I am aware there is no distinction in law on the basis it is made, begs the question how would you define either term, I can see that being argued both ways.
Jul 17th 2019, 9:52 pm
#764
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Re: 2020 Election
I must admit, my experience of being “different” in a culture, albeit in a very minor way, and only when I opened my mouth to speak, left me with a deep feeling for those folk who are visibly “different”. Even when it’s well meaning and just folk being curious, it can be so damn tiring and draining to deal with. To have to live your life having to justify your very existence, fight for equality and in extreme cases fear for your life - in the country you where you were born and/or raised? I can’t conceive how people cope with that.
Jul 17th 2019, 9:52 pm
#765
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Re: 2020 Election
The troll knows how it's different, if s/he bothered to read his/her own article. I am unsure if s/he read the article or not.