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Old May 9th 2020, 4:30 am
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Originally Posted by johnwoo
Not voting isn't a choice unless one wants four more years of Trump. Pity AOC is too young.
Why? She will do even worse in the primary than Bernie Sanders Mr 29%. AOC will get 10% of the vote in a Democratic primary, tops. Completely and utterly unelectable.

She knows that and the only way she runs, is if the purpose of her candidacy is to increase her name recognition, and thus her contract leverage and negotiating chips, in preparation for resigning her house seat to take a corporate or TV gig. She would be far from the first to use a presidential run for those kinds of purposes.

What you don't realise is AOC is a hustler, just like Trump, they just serve different markets. AOC has no money of her own and will look to cash in on her name at some point in the next ten years - she knows her window will close and some other young firebrand will supplant her in the green-left chic consciousness if she waits too long. You're her customer, not her constituent.

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The interview aired in part on Thursday as the San Luis Obispo Tribune unearthed a 1996 court document, which stated that Reade had told to her ex-husband that she had been subject to sexual harassment while working in Biden’s Senate office. It is the first contemporaneous record to corroborate her claim.

According to the document, filed in the California Superior Court and dated 25 March 1996, Reade’s ex-husband, Theodore Dronen, said that Reade told him about “a problem she was having at work regarding sexual harassment, in US Senator Joe Biden’s office.” The Tribune reported that the document does not state who committed the harassment nor does it mention Reade’s more recent allegation of sexual assault.

Dronen wrote that Reade told him she had struck a deal with the chief of staff in Biden’s office and “left her position.” The experience had a “very traumatic effect” on Reade, he added in the court declaration, which was in response to her request for a temporary restraining order against him.
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Originally Posted by Boiler
The Dems control the process, nominate somebody reasonable and they will walk it.
Whose is reasonable now? Biden surely isn't. There are only 2 candidates who can beat Trump imho. They are Michelle Obama and Andrew Cuomo. Not Sanders, not Bloomberg, not Harris not Clinton. But Michelle or Cuomo are not available for various reasons. They are stuck with Biden. The democrats have no chance not now it is looks like Biden has openly lied about this sexual assault from what the Guardian article says. If Biden is subject of restraining order there is no way he would have not been notified which up ends his claim at not knowing anything. Though the wording of who got what filed is maybe up a bit in the air.
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Think you need to re read the article, personally I like Tulsi but I am sure there are other sane options out there.
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We are nearing the five month mark till early voting. Not surprising questionable people and strange accusatory claims are being made about Biden. He has a long history of service using government as a means to improve people's lives. Those in power will do everything including making stories up to stop the upcoming power change. This Reade lady has changed her story multiple times regarding Biden. She has even said how comfortable she felt being around Biden even after the supposed event. That is not the usual opinion for people that have experienced terrible encounters with a bad person. And Biden has since gone through at least 6 senate and Vice president elections. And Reae had remained quiet till now. And several of the people Reade said she told about the incident, have said they never had a conversation with Reade about this topic. That is credibility killing in the worse way. And it has recently come out in the news that Reade is on record saying how she finds powerful men very attractive and has done so in a very descriptive manner. More is being learned which might prove problematic for her. Apparently Reade is a huge Putin fan as well. Doesn't sound like the usual Democrat. I expect everything including accusations that my yet born great grandchildren are the love child of Joe Biden. We are going to have five months of a crap storm but dealing with that will all be worth it to end the most corrupt administration in the last 150 years.

When Bill Clinton and Trump both ran for office and both had multiple women step forward accusing them of sexual acts. And those women were easy to believe because there was a pattern. There is zero pattern with Joe Biden in this regard. But sadly it's par for the course in politics to have lies thrown at you. I just hate to see this type of lie used because there are actual victims of sexual assault who have consistently told their story and may have gotten dates wrong but they never went from saying how comfortable they felt around the person they are accusing, then change that to saying sexual harassment, then change it decades later to saying sexual assault. Christine Ford certainly was the oppose of Reade imo. . But let the games begin!
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Originally Posted by UkWinds5353
We are nearing the five month mark till early voting. Not surprising questionable people and strange accusatory claims are being made about Biden. He has a long history of service using government as a means to improve people's lives. Those in power will do everything including making stories up to stop the upcoming power change. This Reade lady has changed her story multiple times regarding Biden. She has even said how comfortable she felt being around Biden even after the supposed event. That is not the usual opinion for people that have experienced terrible encounters with a bad person. And Biden has since gone through at least 6 senate and Vice president elections. And Reae had remained quiet till now. And several of the people Reade said she told about the incident, have said they never had a conversation with Reade about this topic. That is credibility killing in the worse way. And it has recently come out in the news that Reade is on record saying how she finds powerful men very attractive and has done so in a very descriptive manner. More is being learned which might prove problematic for her. Apparently Reade is a huge Putin fan as well. Doesn't sound like the usual Democrat. I expect everything including accusations that my yet born great grandchildren are the love child of Joe Biden. We are going to have five months of a crap storm but dealing with that will all be worth it to end the most corrupt administration in the last 150 years.

When Bill Clinton and Trump both ran for office and both had multiple women step forward accusing them of sexual acts. And those women were easy to believe because there was a pattern. There is zero pattern with Joe Biden in this regard. But sadly it's par for the course in politics to have lies thrown at you. I just hate to see this type of lie used because there are actual victims of sexual assault who have consistently told their story and may have gotten dates wrong but they never went from saying how comfortable they felt around the person they are accusing, then change that to saying sexual harassment, then change it decades later to saying sexual assault. Christine Ford certainly was the oppose of Reade imo. . But let the games begin!
Come on, there are no end of photos.

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“In US Senator Joe Biden’s office” is what is in the court papers. Doesn’t rule out Biden himself but odd that the ex-husband didn’t say Biden if that is what his wife had told him. A fair possibility that she didn't.

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As expected the "chit" has hit the Fan
The DOJ under & controlled by BARR has decide the Michael Flynn has no case to answer !
Corruption at the highest level !
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Long Twitter thread about the payroll info that Tara Reade chose to make public. I guess she didn't realize that it would indicate her pay was docked for misconduct three times, including well before the alleged incident.

"ADM PAY DEC = decrease in salary per 5 CFR § 534.404(b)(6) for performance or disciplinary reasons. So she was docked twice immediately after she was hired. Also the pay decrease was long before the alleged abuse and therefore not retaliatory."

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"So she was most likely fired for those fraudulent checks, and it seems she has a history of misconduct that most likely has to do with fraud as well."

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And there's more... puportedly charged with check fraud in California, likely forced to resign in lieu of termination? Would be nice if there were some corroboration of this.


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Originally Posted by carcajou
Why? She will do even worse in the primary than Bernie Sanders Mr 29%. AOC will get 10% of the vote in a Democratic primary, tops. Completely and utterly unelectable.

She knows that and the only way she runs, is if the purpose of her candidacy is to increase her name recognition, and thus her contract leverage and negotiating chips, in preparation for resigning her house seat to take a corporate or TV gig. She would be far from the first to use a presidential run for those kinds of purposes.

What you don't realise is AOC is a hustler, just like Trump, they just serve different markets. AOC has no money of her own and will look to cash in on her name at some point in the next ten years - she knows her window will close and some other young firebrand will supplant her in the green-left chic consciousness if she waits too long. You're her customer, not her constituent.
Purely opinion, at least she have a functioning brain unlike Trump. We will see over time how it works out for her. The future is for the young and the world we leave for them. Not a lot of promise for the coming generation after the present disastrous administration. Funny how you come up with 10% of the vote for AOC, I guess you see yourself as some kind of genius given your posting history,

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Originally Posted by Ingles
As expected the "chit" has hit the Fan
The DOJ under & controlled by BARR has decide the Michael Flynn has no case to answer !
Corruption at the highest level !
I see Obama has had something to say about that.

https://www.businessinsider.com/obam...te-call-2020-5
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I see Obama has had something to say about that.

https://www.businessinsider.com/obam...te-call-2020-5
Yes ,it was on TV News here in PT, Trumps & his Administration & not forgetting the gutless GOP are turning the USA into there own private "fief" .
They will ALL pay for this later this year ,it-s on the cards ,just wait and see !
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Originally Posted by Ingles
Yes ,it was on TV News here in PT, Trumps & his Administration & not forgetting the gutless GOP are turning the USA into there own private "fief" .
They will ALL pay for this later this year ,it-s on the cards ,just wait and see !
What makes you so certain? The people who put them there don't appear to have changed their minds, nor are they likely to. They have been indoctrinated into believing that Fox is the only reliable source of information and whilst it is nice to think of them all as rabidly stupid the reality is that many are just normal folks who cannot see the other side of the coin because they are constantly told to not believe any other news source. I think the only way we could come close to understanding is if we turned off our BE notifications and limited our only 'news' viewing to Fox for a week, and then try to imagine what your world would look like if that was your only exposure to information for the last four years, minimum.
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Originally Posted by Boiler
Come on, there are no end of photos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAUOurZIVfI
'No end of photos' ... showing Biden being what would be considered in France (for example) as perfectly normal. I'm decidedly 'British' when it comes to being touchy-feely, but I acknowledge there are different cultural norms in this regard and I don't think Biden is out of line.
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