2020 Election
#2401
Re: 2020 Election
A sexual assault allegation against Joe Biden has ignited a firestorm of controversy
https://www.vox.com/2020/3/27/211959...ult-allegationA woman says Biden assaulted her in 1993. Now #TimesUpBiden is trending.
Makes a lot of sense for Bernie to stay in, could well be last man standing.
I love the way that all of the women who accuse Democrats are sacrosanct but the Trump accusers deserve to have their lives ruined and receive death threats. So awesome.
#2402
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Re: 2020 Election
Personally I like to see some evidence, however it seems many do not require that.
#2403
Re: 2020 Election
(CNN)President Donald Trump's approval now averages higher than his approval rating has been at any point in CNN's polling during his presidency, as 47% approve and 48% disapprove rating of his handling of the presidency, according to CNN's Poll of Polls.
#2404
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Re: 2020 Election
Update from the Graun.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...n-poll-results
Donald Trump in 'near tie' with Joe Biden, new poll finds
Washington Post-ABC News poll puts former vice-president ahead by 49% to 47% among registered votershttps://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...n-poll-results
#2405
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What Joe Biden does now means nothing for November. What Trump does now means everything for November.
No one is expecting accurate poll results when asking from a place of fear and uncertainty. At least they shouldn't be. People will always cling to the 'known' (including this disaster of a POTUS) when everything around them is fluid.
No one is expecting accurate poll results when asking from a place of fear and uncertainty. At least they shouldn't be. People will always cling to the 'known' (including this disaster of a POTUS) when everything around them is fluid.
#2406
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Re: 2020 Election
One possibility I just though of: the virus ebbs and flows over the next six months. People in dense urban areas remain more fearful about going out in public than people in rural areas. Voter turnout in cities and larger towns is especially depressed. Thus Trump wins Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin and Florida by even bigger margins than in 2016, and adds Minnesota and maybe Colorado.
#2407
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One possibility I just though of: the virus ebbs and flows over the next six months. People in dense urban areas remain more fearful about going out in public than people in rural areas. Voter turnout in cities and larger towns is especially depressed. Thus Trump wins Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin and Florida by even bigger margins than in 2016, and adds Minnesota and maybe Colorado.
#2408
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Re: 2020 Election
I know several very conservative evangelical christians who think that Donald is an absolute buffoon and are disgusted by him. I believe that his voter support actually will decline in 2020 from 2016. The only open question is how successful will Vladimir be in influencing the election in Donald's favor.
#2409
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Has their opinion changed in the last year? I thought that Trump has recently been as popular as ever with evangelicals. Apart from anything else, evangelicals and conservatives in general tend to be thrilled that the Supreme Court now has a conservative majority, and like the prospect of a super-majority should Trump win a second term.
#2410
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One possibility I just though of: the virus ebbs and flows over the next six months. People in dense urban areas remain more fearful about going out in public than people in rural areas. Voter turnout in cities and larger towns is especially depressed. Thus Trump wins Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin and Florida by even bigger margins than in 2016, and adds Minnesota and maybe Colorado.
Trump: "“They had things — levels of voting that if you ever agreed to it, you’d never have a Republican elected in this country again,” he told “Fox & Friends.”"
#2411
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Has their opinion changed in the last year? I thought that Trump has recently been as popular as ever with evangelicals. Apart from anything else, evangelicals and conservatives in general tend to be thrilled that the Supreme Court now has a conservative majority, and like the prospect of a super-majority should Trump win a second term.
#2412
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Re: 2020 Election
1. The GOP Crazies knew perfectly well how vile Trump was in 2016. The alternative was a left-wing candidate in Hillary Clinton. So of course the far right fell in behind Trump, the same way most far lefties fall in behind whomever the Democratic candidate is.
2. The Supreme Court has had a conservative majority for a generation. Trump didn't change that or "flip" the court. Obama did have a chance to change it, and punted. Say what you will about Trump and Bush but if Obama had fought anywhere near as hard for Merrick Garland as they did for Roberts, Alito and Kavanaugh, then the Supreme Court would have flipped left for the first time in decades. Obama folding so meekly on such an important issue was perhaps the greatest disappointment of his tenure.
3. Who the public blames for the virus economic collapse is still to be determined. They may decide Trump made things worse, they may decide Trump gets a pass, they may decide Biden could do better or they may decide Biden would have done worse. People won't start to form hard opinions until September or so.
2. The Supreme Court has had a conservative majority for a generation. Trump didn't change that or "flip" the court. Obama did have a chance to change it, and punted. Say what you will about Trump and Bush but if Obama had fought anywhere near as hard for Merrick Garland as they did for Roberts, Alito and Kavanaugh, then the Supreme Court would have flipped left for the first time in decades. Obama folding so meekly on such an important issue was perhaps the greatest disappointment of his tenure.
3. Who the public blames for the virus economic collapse is still to be determined. They may decide Trump made things worse, they may decide Trump gets a pass, they may decide Biden could do better or they may decide Biden would have done worse. People won't start to form hard opinions until September or so.
#2413
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Re: 2020 Election
Three things; first, the fundies who voted for Donald in 2016 had no conception of what an absolute incompetent creep he really is. Now, after 3 and 1/2 years, they fully know about him. It won't be a lot, but perhaps 10 percent of fundies will vote their conscience in the privacy of the voting booth, even if they tell their fellow church members they voted for Donald. Secondly, with the Supremes solidly conservative 5 to 4, there is no great court incentive for them to get a Republican president like there was in 2016. Thirdly, if the economy goes into the dump because of the virus, Donald will own it, just like he was taking credit for the great (read: Obama-created) economy that we had that he had nothing to do with.
#2414
Re: 2020 Election
Just read that YET another Serving Military Officer has been "canned" by Trump
This time a Naval Officer
Is the USA`s Decline into a Trump Dictatorship speeding up ?
This time a Naval Officer
Is the USA`s Decline into a Trump Dictatorship speeding up ?
#2415
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Re: 2020 Election
1. The GOP Crazies knew perfectly well how vile Trump was in 2016. The alternative was a left-wing candidate in Hillary Clinton. So of course the far right fell in behind Trump, the same way most far lefties fall in behind whomever the Democratic candidate is.
2. The Supreme Court has had a conservative majority for a generation. Trump didn't change that or "flip" the court. Obama did have a chance to change it, and punted. Say what you will about Trump and Bush but if Obama had fought anywhere near as hard for Merrick Garland as they did for Roberts, Alito and Kavanaugh, then the Supreme Court would have flipped left for the first time in decades. Obama folding so meekly on such an important issue was perhaps the greatest disappointment of his tenure.
3. Who the public blames for the virus economic collapse is still to be determined. They may decide Trump made things worse, they may decide Trump gets a pass, they may decide Biden could do better or they may decide Biden would have done worse. People won't start to form hard opinions until September or so.
2. The Supreme Court has had a conservative majority for a generation. Trump didn't change that or "flip" the court. Obama did have a chance to change it, and punted. Say what you will about Trump and Bush but if Obama had fought anywhere near as hard for Merrick Garland as they did for Roberts, Alito and Kavanaugh, then the Supreme Court would have flipped left for the first time in decades. Obama folding so meekly on such an important issue was perhaps the greatest disappointment of his tenure.
3. Who the public blames for the virus economic collapse is still to be determined. They may decide Trump made things worse, they may decide Trump gets a pass, they may decide Biden could do better or they may decide Biden would have done worse. People won't start to form hard opinions until September or so.
1. I dispute your assertion that the religious fundies knew how crazy Donald was in 2016. Every day, he does things more astoundingly stupid, or outrageous, As I said in the previous post, 90 percent of them will still be good little doggies and vote for him. A minority (10 percent?) of them still have a shred of morality and have had enough of him. They will either stay home, or reluctantly vote for the Democratic candidate, or perhaps one of the obscure (no chance of winning) boutique parties.
2. In 2016, the conservative majority on the Court was in danger of being overturned, and would have been if Moscow Mitch hadn't broken the law. Now, there is little danger of the Supremes going liberal.
3. For better or worse, how a large number of people vote depends on how they are doing economically. If they and their relatives have jobs, or their retirement accounts are doing well, it favors the incumbent. If the economy tanks, they associate that with the incumbent also. It's not logical, but it happens.