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Old Feb 21st 2019, 8:31 pm
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Is this the one that advocates no cars, buses, trains, planes, etc. so that the environment can be saved? There are other things that hubby loves to tell me about her and her ideology that makes him hysterical with laughter.
Sounds like your husband's been watching too much Fox News.
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Short memory me thinks.
Methinks not.
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Old Feb 21st 2019, 8:38 pm
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Short memory me thinks.
Not really. He declared in June 2015 and from that point on your argument has some substance.
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Not really. He declared in June 2015 and from that point on your argument has some substance.
Yeah, that's my thinking - 2014 is quite different than 2015. Even then, how many took him seriously from the very moment he declared?

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Is this the one that advocates no cars, buses, trains, planes, etc. so that the environment can be saved? There are other things that hubby loves to tell me about her and her ideology that makes him hysterical with laughter.
Yes, I believe we're talking about the same person. FTR I'm pretty sure she likes trains. I have no firsthand knowledge of that but there's a thread about her in TIO where they really get completely obsessed with trains so I'm going with that.
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Yes, I believe we're talking about the same person. FTR I'm pretty sure she likes trains. I have no firsthand knowledge of that but there's a thread about her in TIO where they really get completely obsessed with trains so I'm going with that.
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Incidentally, the rumor in Texas is that there is a Biden/Beto coalition.
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You have to be a little strange to run for president, even under the best circumstances. Of course, some people run never expecting to win. They just need a job and attention for whatever tat they're trying to sell. Mike Huckabee did it for over a decade. Unfortunately, there is always the risk that one of them might accidentally win and end up being the worst president in the history of the country.
Be worst than the present holder off the office , I should imagine that's near nigh impossible.
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Incidentally, the rumor in Texas is that there is a Biden/Beto coalition.
When will the old white men give it up? I would rather see that potential ticket reversed.
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When will the old white men give it up? I would rather see that potential ticket reversed.
I think the answer is NEVER.

It's a bit premature to be choosing a VP when Biden hasn't even declared he's going to run. The Beto/Biden story has hit the national media but I first heard it a couple of weeks ago from a hardcore Beto supporter. Obama and Biden have both courted Beto but it's unclear whether he's interested in any coalition. Beto told Obama to stay out of his senate race --- he didn't want his endorsement. If they are trying to keep Beto from running, because they see him as the greatest threat to Biden's core constituency, then what happens to Beto if Biden doesn't receive the nomination? He will have missed his chance to perform on the national stage. The only way any of this works is if Beto honestly and truly has no interest in running for president.

Incidentally, I'm not comfortable with all of this talk about what color or gender the next Democratic candidate is meant to be. It contradicts the notion of an organic choice made by the voters and puts the situation back into 2016/Hillary territory. People don't like being told who they're supposed to vote for. Let them all run and keep the party machine out of the way.
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I agree that everyone should run and the chips fall where they may. I don't get to pick the nominee, but I don't get to pick who I vote for in the primary (should I be a USC by then and if I chose to register)

I think that this is probably the only shot that Beto is going to get. I don't see him beating Cornyn if he runs against him in the other Texas Senate race, and after that where does he go? He becomes irrelevant.
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I agree that everyone should run and the chips fall where they may. I don't get to pick the nominee, but I don't get to pick who I vote for in the primary (should I be a USC by then and if I chose to register)

I think that this is probably the only shot that Beto is going to get. I don't see him beating Cornyn if he runs against him in the other Texas Senate race, and after that where does he go? He becomes irrelevant.
I don't get to vote in the primary because, in Texas, you have to be registered as a Dem/Repub to participate.
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I don't get to vote in the primary because, in Texas, you have to be registered as a Dem/Repub to participate.
Thought that was the norm in all of the states. It is down here in MS and it certainly that in the State of New York. One of the very reasons why I no longer subscribe to a party line plus the fact I never vote a party line anyway.
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Thought that was the norm in all of the states. It is down here in MS and it certainly that in the State of New York. One of the very reasons why I no longer subscribe to a party line plus the fact I never vote a party line anyway.
No, I don't think it's the same everywhere. Now I'm wondering if I'm right about not being able to vote in Texas' primaries?

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In general, but not always, states that do not ask voters to choose parties on the voter registration form are “open primary” states. In an open primary, voters may choose privately in which primary to vote. In other words, voters may choose which party’s ballot to vote, but this decision is private and does not register the voter with that party. This permits a voter to cast a vote across party lines for the primary election. Critics argue that the open primary dilutes the parties’ ability to nominate. Supporters say this system gives voters maximal flexibility—allowing them to cross party lines—and maintains their privacy.

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