scrubbedexpat091

BC Hydro where I live has apprenticeship for power line technicians and its paid, but you have to complete a pre-apprentice program first, and while its only like 4 or 5 months long, it costs $13,000 and some change which can be a hurdle as one example, while the apprenticeship exists, there is still a fairly substantial cost to overcome.

Leslie

It definitely applies. Trump could most certainly win if Bernie gets the nomination --- what you're saying plays into that. Trump also can most certainly win against any Democratic nominee, tbh. No matter who the Democrats nominate, Trump will brand them as socialist --- that's already started. If they nominate somebody who is too moderate to effectively brand as socialist --- he'll just do fake conspiracy theory investigations and accusations that will never come to anything but will sully the candidate as seen with Biden. Now that he has an almost fully corrupted federal government, he'll be spoilt with resources to do just that.

The Democrats ran a moderate last time and we all know what happened. I'm not going to even dare to say who they should nominate because I have no freaking idea who can win but I have no problem supporting Bernie Sanders if fortune dictates ... and I'm much more conservative than many of my friends here on BE. Bernie doesn't scare me.

Steerpike

So come on, Boiler, share with us what is wrong with Time honoring a child with medical issues? What could you possibly find in that to criticize? Are only 'healthy' people worthy of being honored? Should we be hiding 'unhealthy' people from public view, as in Victorian times?

scrubbedexpat099

Happens all the time, you see all sorts of compelling stories of children going through all sorts of horrors to get better.

This seems more of a Circus Show, no attempt at treatment seems her Parents initially and then other activists have weaponised her situation, well may also monetisied, that last bit seems to not get coverage. She has skipped school since the age of 10 or somewhere around that, and this should be celebrated?

This is nothing new, often Parents seem to want to re live their lives through their children, much more disturbing is the number of people who should know better jumping on the bandwagon.

Giantaxe

You seem to be an "expert" on her medical condition and that "no attempt at treatment" has bene made. Are you party to her medical records? Do you know that she has received no schooling since age 10?

The people most affected by climate change are younger generations. Ergo, having someone from a young cohort advocating action has more poignancy and impact. But predictably the attacks rain in from the normal culprits.

scrubbedexpat099

Lots of coverage out there, look what is happening.

Giantaxe

Predictably no answer to my questions.

kimilseung

Concerning a story of a very public education, I love the attempt of slight of hand of "school"/"schooling" instead of "education". I see no disingenuousness in that at all.

UkWinds5353

I like how the UK and other western countries support getting people into trade schools that lead to a well paid career. It's not always possible for mature adults to spend four, five or six years at University in terms of cost and time involved while trying to maintain a source of income and raising a family. Limiting the path out of poverty to just college education can imo damage the family unit for several generations for millions of families. And corporate America doesn't care about the American family more than their bottom line. Sadly, it's all up to the elders in the family to do it all including safe guarding the next generation because government in America to a lot of people is spelled with four letters. Politicians often care more about Dogmatic agendas than their constituencies. I would tell anybody who is fortunate to have multiple choice in countries, to pick and live in the nation that will best protect you and yours. National loyalty bedamned. Sorry, I've had a couple glasses of wine.

My wife is a very proper British girl who believes in the American dream but it frustrates her to see so many people denied the opportunity to experience the dream it self. But to be honest she is frustrated with the status quo in the UK as well. So what can one do.

UkWinds5353

It's very true. I remember watching a broadcast news event on Skynews several years ago were the topic of discussion was about retraining and using vehicles including apprenticeships. That really should be the way forward in the States in order to create additional avenues for better paying jobs. Not every person is interested in attending University or should have to. And I know people that spent four, five, nine years attaining degrees and later decided on a different path and now have careers where a degree is not required.

scrubbedexpat091

Working adults are indeed left behind when it comes to programs and training, as you say they are not likely able to take years off working to attend school, and at least here most programs are full-time or more than full-time and leave little room for a job, let alone a full-time job. Add in here student loan program requires you to attend full-time in order to get most student loans, the whole system is designed around 18 year old entering school and only going to school, it's near impossible for a working adult who can't afford to take years off for school.

California at least is better compared to British Columbia, seems to be far more vocational training options there which do vary by county, but some are even free. But like many things in Canada they over complicate things and throw in necessary classes into vocational programs and then charge 5,000+ for a certificate program.

I was looking into one program, its not even 6 months long, but the damn cost is pushing $12,000 when all is said and done, oh and its not eligible for student loans from the government as its too short, the job is in demand, but unless you have access to $12,000 it's not a viable option, and there are so many similiar programs, its just idiotic the cost for training, and then people wonder why some remain unskilled, how the hell does a low income worker come up with tens of thousands needed to train?

scrubbedexpat091

At the airline I worked for we had a pilot who we called Dr, Captain because he initially went to medical school worked as a doctor for a few years decided he didn't like it, he already had a private license so went and did more flying to get commercial and such, eventually got a job with a regional airline and then onto the airline I was working for. In the end he ended up in a job nowhere close to his degree.

While a lot of people think of flight attendants as being low skill/low education, the airline I was with a little over 40% had a bachelors degree, in my department those with degrees were lower but still 25% had a bachelors degree or higher, never assume those working low-medium skill jobs are not educated, so many in society do, but might be surprised of the education level of some of these workers.

These days airlines get so many applicants for flight attendant, while not a requirement having a degree is more likely to get you an interview vs not having a degree even though the job itself doesn't require a degree and only requires 6-8 weeks of training but a major airline can have 300 positions and gets tens of thousands of applicants, its a highly competitive job and difficult to get, so many for whatever reason want to be flight attendants despite the relatively low pay for many years.

BristolUK

Trump quote quoted in today's paper
Spot the difference. Makes a point, nay accusation, based on bugger all. Are Trump and Boiler related?

dc koop

Half of the attendants are flying grandmas. There are so many old uns these days I was beginning to think they'd signed up with the airlines to augment their social security checks

dc koop

If you're not the academic university type you can learn auto mechanics, welding, vocational nursing (not RN Registered nursing ), cosmetology, plumbing, water treatment certification and a bunch of other trades at local junior college and no one will convince me that these courses are too expensive for the average person. These kind of trades wont make you a multi millionaire but they'll earn you a decent enough living.

Automation has killed a lot of factory jobs. Where do you ever see ads for lathe operators or tool and die makers any more.? All automated or the jobs gone to China or Korea where if you look at the next tool or piece of hardware you buy at the store it will without a doubt have one of those countries stamped somewhere on it.