2020 Election
#5763
Heading for Poppyland
Joined: Jul 2007
Location: North Norfolk and northern New York State
Posts: 14,453
Re: 2020 Election
In New York, there’s yet an additional complexity - eight different political parties. So, for instance, if I’d wanted to vote for Elise Stefanik for US Congress, I could have voted for her under the Republican, Conservative, or Independence Party lines. These three have to be tabulated separately, as the location on the ballot in the next election is dependent on how well each party performed in this election. Same for the Democratic vs. Working Families parties.
So a heck of a lot more complex than a UK general election, in which the votes can be quickly sorted into 3 or 4 piles, then each pile counted.
So a heck of a lot more complex than a UK general election, in which the votes can be quickly sorted into 3 or 4 piles, then each pile counted.
#5764
Forum Regular
Joined: Jul 2018
Location: California
Posts: 254
Re: 2020 Election
In New York, there’s yet an additional complexity - eight different political parties. So, for instance, if I’d wanted to vote for Elise Stefanik for US Congress, I could have voted for her under the Republican, Conservative, or Independence Party lines. These three have to be tabulated separately, as the location on the ballot in the next election is dependent on how well each party performed in this election. Same for the Democratic vs. Working Families parties.
So a heck of a lot more complex than a UK general election, in which the votes can be quickly sorted into 3 or 4 piles, then each pile counted.
So a heck of a lot more complex than a UK general election, in which the votes can be quickly sorted into 3 or 4 piles, then each pile counted.
But here (in CA anyway) anyone who asks to vote is allowed to cast a "provisional ballot"- this ensures that no-one is wrongly excluded, but obviously going through all the provisional votes to determine which are valid and can be counted takes time.
#5765
Heading for Poppyland
Joined: Jul 2007
Location: North Norfolk and northern New York State
Posts: 14,453
Re: 2020 Election
..because in the UK no-one whose name is not on the list is allowed to vote.
But here (in CA anyway) anyone who asks to vote is allowed to cast a "provisional ballot"- this ensures that no-one is wrongly excluded, but obviously going through all the provisional votes to determine which are valid and can be counted takes time.
But here (in CA anyway) anyone who asks to vote is allowed to cast a "provisional ballot"- this ensures that no-one is wrongly excluded, but obviously going through all the provisional votes to determine which are valid and can be counted takes time.
#5767
Re: 2020 Election
..because in the UK no-one whose name is not on the list is allowed to vote.
But here (in CA anyway) anyone who asks to vote is allowed to cast a "provisional ballot"- this ensures that no-one is wrongly excluded, but obviously going through all the provisional votes to determine which are valid and can be counted takes time.
But here (in CA anyway) anyone who asks to vote is allowed to cast a "provisional ballot"- this ensures that no-one is wrongly excluded, but obviously going through all the provisional votes to determine which are valid and can be counted takes time.
Last edited by dakota44; Nov 28th 2020 at 8:34 pm.
#5768
Re: 2020 Election
I kind of like how they do it in Peru, and some other Latin American countries. You are required by law to vote. Failing to do so results in a fine. Failure to pay the fine bars you from renewing your drivers license, passport or accessing other government services until it is paid. Voting is an obligation.
#5772
Re: 2020 Election
Also common misconception, we don't have to vote. What we do have to do is rock up to the polling station and give our name. That's it. If you want to vote you can, if you want to draw a dick and balls on your ballot paper you can. It's dumb imo. Make it law to vote or don't, but this middle way is silly.
#5773
Re: 2020 Election
That photo is a lie. It's normally a slice of shit plastic bread, with a cheap, somewhat dubious hotdog, some partially boiled then hotplates for two seconds onions and finally the cheapest ketchup or American mustard.
Also common misconception, we don't have to vote. What we do have to do is rock up to the polling station and give our name. That's it. If you want to vote you can, if you want to draw a dick and balls on your ballot paper you can. It's dumb imo. Make it law to vote or don't, but this middle way is silly.
Also common misconception, we don't have to vote. What we do have to do is rock up to the polling station and give our name. That's it. If you want to vote you can, if you want to draw a dick and balls on your ballot paper you can. It's dumb imo. Make it law to vote or don't, but this middle way is silly.
#5775
Re: 2020 Election
I would think mandating an actual vote would also remove the idea of the secret ballot. Oz seems to have a good balance of making you get off your bum, but allowing Anarchists', contrarians, and others to also opt out of the system if they want.