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Old Oct 8th 2020, 4:15 pm
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Originally Posted by Lion in Winter
What is "rank democracy" exactly?
I think it is in context of "rank and file", or "the ranks". Ordinary people, or more exactly all people. This Birch Society theme wishes to downgrade democracy of one person one vote, and prefers the idea of "laws" and systems,: that just magically appear to protect us all, To support the electoral college, and support the courts decisions when they come during November and after.
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Old Oct 8th 2020, 4:19 pm
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Originally Posted by robin1234
The way they vote in Maine
I keep thinking that a version of that for the UK might give us a better result.
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Old Oct 8th 2020, 4:20 pm
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Originally Posted by kimilseung
I think it is in context of "rank and file", or "the ranks". Ordinary people, or more exactly all people. This Birch Society theme wishes to downgrade democracy of one person one vote, and prefers the idea of "laws" and systems,: that just magically appear to protect us all, To support the electoral college, and support the courts decisions when they come during November and after.

I see. So a small group of people deciding what's good for the rest of us. And if we were right thinking, we would know that this is really what's good for us.

Sort of like being colonized.
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Originally Posted by Lion in Winter
What is "rank democracy" exactly?
Now we've sorted that out, I'm also intrigued to learn what this "prospefity" is that he talks about. Is that covfefe for wealthy people?
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Old Oct 8th 2020, 5:03 pm
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Originally Posted by Lion in Winter
I see. So a small group of people deciding what's good for the rest of us. And if we were right thinking, we would know that this is really what's good for us.

Sort of like being colonized.
The way you put it makes it sound terrible but then I see the wife's family posting "Trump 2020, Ivanka 2024" , Obama being a muslim and complaining about people being lazy and on benefits despite them all being lazy and on benefits and I can't help but think these people shouldn't be allowed to vote.
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Since the Lincoln Project comes up quite a bit in this thread . . .

Steve Schmidt and Rick Wilson, Republican operatives/pit bulls and founders of the Lincoln Project, are responsible for the scathe. Schmidt tweeted a screed today (link posted in TIO) which was fun. Look at the first founder though.

https://lincolnproject.us/team/
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Sorry, I'm not following this! I just looked in TIO, and don't see anything relevant - which thread? I did a google for 'steve schmidt' and 'twitter' but not finding anything obvious (but I don't follow Twitter so not sure how to find it).
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THANKS! I can't believe I missed that post! All makes sense now.
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Six arrested to plot to kidnap Michigan governor and overthrow State government. No doubt a trained Marxist militia was involved!
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Originally Posted by kimilseung
Six arrested to plot to kidnap Michigan governor and overthrow State government. No doubt a trained Marxist militia was involved!

Must have been.

No true patriot would have done such a thing.
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Originally Posted by kimilseung
Six arrested to plot to kidnap Michigan governor and overthrow State government. No doubt a trained Marxist militia was involved!
Originally Posted by Lion in Winter
Must have been.

No true patriot would have done such a thing.
W the actual F?

Thirteen arrests - six on Federal charges, seven on State charges. The "Wolverine Watchmen" - which appears at first glance to be a right-wing militia with ties to white supremacist groups. But I'm sure they are all very fine people.
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After the stunt the military cosplayers pulled earlier at the state legislature this isn't too surprising. These domestic terrorists could be just the tip of the iceberg.
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Originally Posted by Oakvillian
W the actual F?

Thirteen arrests - six on Federal charges, seven on State charges. The "Wolverine Watchmen" - which appears at first glance to be a right-wing militia with ties to white supremacist groups. But I'm sure they are all very fine people.

Can you imagine what all.these groups will do when/if trump loses...
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Old Oct 8th 2020, 8:20 pm
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After the stunt the military cosplayers pulled earlier at the state legislature this isn't too surprising. These domestic terrorists could be just the tip of the iceberg.
They should have "stood back and stood by".
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So looks like the next debate is off. First, the organizers said it should be remote, then Trump said 'not playing', so then Biden said he's bowing out. I wonder what other choice Biden had at that point - could he have proceeded? Seems like, if Trump says 'not playing', then the debate is off without further ado.

The republicans may try to spin it as Biden is causing it, but hopefully the message will remain clear - debate moved to virtual by the debate commission, then Trump dropped out.

I honestly don't think anything good would have come out of it anyway.

I suspect this may come back around, though ...

Final debate still on the books.

https://www.vox.com/21505184/virtual...tober-15-miami
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Originally Posted by Phathamster
Can you imagine what all.these groups will do when/if trump loses...
Hopefully they'll come out of the woodwork, make a nuisance of themselves and get shot to pieces by the National Guard but cowards like that have a tendency to go yellow when it's them doing the dying, so they'll probably retreat from the public eye, go back to the hovels they crawled out of and satisfy themselves jizzing over QAnon.
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