scrubbedexpat091

It must be exhausting for some people to be so worried about voting by mail, how many decades has it been available in some states in some fashion and never was an issue. Goodness.

I've voted by mail in every election I have participated in, 2 decades now.

And a mail ballot doesn't need to be mailed back in all states, California for instance, you can get the ballot by mail, then return the ballot in person if one is so paranoid about it getting lost.

Former Lancastrian

So really not a mail in vote then if you don't mail it back

lansbury

Just about all the others are gang related. Funnily enough some years ago they disbanded the Gang Task Force and there was a massive spike in gang shootings. So much so they reinvented the Gang Task Force as the Gun Crime Reduction Team. They disbanded that as part of their move to defund and cripple Portland police and hey ho gun crime jumps again. Wonder what lesson might be learned this time.

johnwoo

It is mail in ballot if you do mail it in.

scrubbedexpat091

If one chose not to mail it back, then it would only be a one way mail ballot when its mailed to you.

They still call mine a mail ballot, but there is no physical mail involved anymore, California voter people send me a unique link, can only be used once, it gives me access to my ballot, I print it, fill it out, then fax it back, once the web portal shows its been received, I destroy the original.

Each page of the ballot (I think there was 10 pages in 2016 of stuff to vote on) had a bar-code and some combination of letters and numbers, which I assume is unique and can only be used on one ballot, so if you sent multiple copies back of the same ballot, the system in place would catch it.

I feel more secure this way than going to some random place (sometimes its just someones garage at their house) and dropping a ballot into a fairly insecure box with volunteers, at least my ballot goes directly to the place that counts them.

I do have the option to also mail it back, but faxing makes the most sense, cheapest as well, and quickest method to return it and doesn't involve Canada Post.

andyrebell

So what is the lowest number they have ever had in Portland just out of curiosity?. I can't find crime figures year on year.

Former Lancastrian

This one does it by month so get a pencil and paper and a calculator and goes back 5 years.

https://www.portlandoregon.gov/police/71978

or this one

https://www.macrotrends.net/cities/u...ate-statistics

moneypenny20

I'd trust a cat over a dog. Dogs are too easily pleased by a pat on the head.

andyrebell

Not so fast. A cat will suffocate a baby by sitting on it's face google it it has happened before. A dog will protect a baby depending upon the breed. A dog is man's best friend. A cat chooses to live with you.

civilservant

Give me a cat any day of the week and twice on a sunday. Competent, takes care of itself, you can let it go outside without worrying that it's going to shit everywhere.

A dog on the other hand eats your shoes, slobbers everywhere, wakes you up at 2am and will lick your face if you don't pay it any attention.

It really does remind me of Biden (cat) and Trump (Dog)

A cat is a companion. One that doesn't need you but wants you. It chooses to spend time with you. A dog is nothing but a slave, performing tasks for treats or pets. Comes down to what you want from a pet.

moneypenny20

A dog will chew a babies face. Google it, it has happened. I've never understood the man's best friend thing. Is it because the man doesn't have to have a conversation or even think?

caretaker

Some dogs are smart enough to perform tasks on time and without the conversation, and those are good dogs, but the best friend thing is probably because men and dogs formed a mutually useful working partnership tens of thousands of years ago, and because it continues today. What were previously thought to be smaller wolf skulls found in Europe that exhibit shorter, wider muzzle almost like dogs could mean this domestication occurred even earlier. The science show Nova has one program called Dog Tales, and another called Cat Tales running currently; if you don't like one, maybe you'd like the other.

Lion in Winter

Might I just point out that we are at risk of having a serious conversation about which sort of pet animal would make a better choice for president than our current candidates

caretaker

Trump has no dog. What the hell kind of president has no dog?

Lion in Winter

Apparently he's the first in 120 years not to have one.

Someone should check his long form birth certificate - looks fishy to me.