2020 Election
#3571
Re: 2020 Election
I loathe her.
I loathe how gleeful she must have felt today when Trump, during his Corona conference wank, threatened to take the money meant for each State's public schools and divert it to religious or private institutions if a State didn't re-open its schools in the fall. Not only is it outrageous. It's unlawful
I loathe how gleeful she must have felt today when Trump, during his Corona conference wank, threatened to take the money meant for each State's public schools and divert it to religious or private institutions if a State didn't re-open its schools in the fall. Not only is it outrageous. It's unlawful
#3572
Banned
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,830
Re: 2020 Election
Donald Trump finally figured out today that having a Convention in Florida during a time when the TrumpCoronaVirus is raging at it's worse would only result in an empty venue because not even his most active supporters want to attend his event knowing they probably will get infected get seriously ill if not worst. So his only avenue to excite his base is now dead. He will now have to spend all his energy giving speeches to the press telling them that schools MUST open back up and how safe it is for children to attend classes. Now that position might be more convincing to the average voter if Trump had not just canceled his own Republican Convention due to the fact it's not safe for people to gather.
If we didn't know all this stuff was true it would be hard to believe. But fear not we're in good hands Donald did after-all passed his cognitive tests.
I wonder what the stable genius has in store for the country in the next few weeks because that Dam I mentioned about one month ago is about to burst. All those safety measures to protect the country from having 10s of millions of Americans unemployed with zero means to keep from being kicked out of their homes is about to kick off. Republicans in the Senate are balking at the idea of re-upping unemployment benefits, and other governmental assistance to stop this country from cratering into a full blown depression. And it's all about to start in about 2 weeks time. Republicans= really bad at running government! These conservative morons have followed Donald Trump over a cliff. What a mess!
If we didn't know all this stuff was true it would be hard to believe. But fear not we're in good hands Donald did after-all passed his cognitive tests.
I wonder what the stable genius has in store for the country in the next few weeks because that Dam I mentioned about one month ago is about to burst. All those safety measures to protect the country from having 10s of millions of Americans unemployed with zero means to keep from being kicked out of their homes is about to kick off. Republicans in the Senate are balking at the idea of re-upping unemployment benefits, and other governmental assistance to stop this country from cratering into a full blown depression. And it's all about to start in about 2 weeks time. Republicans= really bad at running government! These conservative morons have followed Donald Trump over a cliff. What a mess!
Last edited by UkWinds5353; Jul 24th 2020 at 4:40 am.
#3573
Re: 2020 Election
What does "affect" mean in this context? Your graph only showed hospitalization rates by age. Do you have data for the asymptomatic infection rate in children? Or data on the transmission rate (likelihood in percentages) from asymptomatic children to (1) other children (2) adults.
So while covid-19 may have a proportionately higher rate of hospitalization and death among the elderly, I don't think it can be said any longer that most younger people will only have mild symptoms. I don't know the reason/s why younger people are being hit harder than previously, whether the virus is mutating/changing, whether risky behaviours are the reason (not social distancing, no masks, large gatherings), but the stats do appear to suggest that we can't really guarantee that any age group is safe, either now in in the future. We don't know enough about the virus or its characteristics to have any absolutes.
#3574
Lost in BE Cyberspace
Joined: Jan 2006
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 12,865
Re: 2020 Election
As you say, the rest of the world (at least, much of the world) has got their infection rates down so they can think about going back to normal life, like going back to school. My niece in UK is quite comfortable having her 4 and 6 year-olds going back to school, for example. This is the part that Trump doesn't seem to understand (or won't acknowledge) - yes, the rest of the world is sending their kids to school now, and that's because they got their shit together a while back. And Trump keeps saying things like, 'our testing is the envy of the world' ... so those who live in the Trump bubble probably believe that.
Last edited by Giantaxe; Jul 24th 2020 at 5:24 am.
#3575
Re: 2020 Election
The dictator wannabe can't just decree it
Even lackey Pence admitted as much last week when he said to the Washington Post "What you heard from the president is just determination to provide the kind of leadership from the federal level to get our kids back to school. Because that’s where they belong.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/educa...t-they-can-do/
#3576
Re: 2020 Election
This disease is a threat for everyone, children included. Even if they have never exhibited symptoms or appeared to have contracted it.
One of the "odd, illogical stuff out there" conditions that have occurred in children is called Multisystem Inflammatory Syndrome".
The irony is that it occurs in children who have either recovered from Covid or hadn't been known to have had it because they'd been asymptomatic ( and were only discovered to have had it when tested later).
In both instances their young bodies were subsequently overwhelmed by the massive amount of antibodies produced by their strong immune systems in order to fight Covid. What initially spared them from the potentially lethal virus, then boomeranged to threaten (and sometimes take) their lives.
One of the "odd, illogical stuff out there" conditions that have occurred in children is called Multisystem Inflammatory Syndrome".
The irony is that it occurs in children who have either recovered from Covid or hadn't been known to have had it because they'd been asymptomatic ( and were only discovered to have had it when tested later).
In both instances their young bodies were subsequently overwhelmed by the massive amount of antibodies produced by their strong immune systems in order to fight Covid. What initially spared them from the potentially lethal virus, then boomeranged to threaten (and sometimes take) their lives.
#3577
Forum Regular
Joined: Apr 2019
Posts: 46
Re: 2020 Election
I haven't seen any stats on under 18s, but I have read in quite a few Los Angeles County local media sources that of the 2,000+ people sick enough to be hospitalized with covid-19, 25% of them are between 18 - 40. This is in contrast to their April stats, which showed that 10% of hospitalized people were between 18 - 40.
So while covid-19 may have a proportionately higher rate of hospitalization and death among the elderly, I don't think it can be said any longer that most younger people will only have mild symptoms. I don't know the reason/s why younger people are being hit harder than previously, whether the virus is mutating/changing, whether risky behaviours are the reason (not social distancing, no masks, large gatherings), but the stats do appear to suggest that we can't really guarantee that any age group is safe, either now in in the future. We don't know enough about the virus or its characteristics to have any absolutes.
So while covid-19 may have a proportionately higher rate of hospitalization and death among the elderly, I don't think it can be said any longer that most younger people will only have mild symptoms. I don't know the reason/s why younger people are being hit harder than previously, whether the virus is mutating/changing, whether risky behaviours are the reason (not social distancing, no masks, large gatherings), but the stats do appear to suggest that we can't really guarantee that any age group is safe, either now in in the future. We don't know enough about the virus or its characteristics to have any absolutes.
https://www.latimes.com/science/stor...ed-by-covid-19
#3578
BE Enthusiast
Joined: Feb 2017
Location: Newnan, GA
Posts: 802
Re: 2020 Election
The USA healthcare system would be screwed if 3% of the population needed treatment.
#3579
Re: 2020 Election
Speaking of bumper stickers - saw one today "Republicans for Biden 2020" - woo hoo! Sadly, this was in CA, which is already in the bag ...
#3580
Re: 2020 Election
Donald Trump finally figured out today that having a Convention in Florida during a time when the TrumpCoronaVirus is raging at it's worse would only result in an empty venue because not even his most active supporters want to attend his event knowing they probably will get infected get seriously ill if not worst.
Example, today's personal Trumpster derp encounter.
Today, I was working in a middle-of-the-road trailer park, many permanent residents, not too posh, not too dire, round here that makes it a stronghold for the retired Trump voter. 9.30am I am approached by a potential customer, can't help him but he's the sort of old scroat that wants to chat regardless, pleasant enough but one of those types who has no concept of personal space, even in these times, let alone can manage to social distance himself. So then we start that delightful social dance whereby he stands 12' from my face, I back off, he closes in, I back off. Pre-Sarscov2 that was one of my pet hates so you can imagine what it did for my blood pressure!! I manage to get rid of him by fobbing him off with the company card and telling him to call the boss.
Rest of the day proceeds uneventfully, 3pm I need the restroom, my customer is high risk and although she said feel free to use the facilities indoors I'm not about to put her at risk unnecessarily so head down to the site restrooms. Lo and behold the whole place is deserted and locked up. Note on the door saying that xxx resident died from Covid, all facilities will remain closed until further notice and could anyone that had contact with xxx get tested, etc, etc.
It is at this point I remember that the boss had asked me earlier in the week if I'd be OK to work in this park because of the death and it is at this point I will terminate this rapidly expanding shaggy dog story and just say WTF was the old bloke doing in my face when he must know there's a good reason all the other old dears are staying indoors on this park.
Ask many of them and they throw you that old Fox News bone about Fauci changing his mind all the time and they don't know what to believe anymore so their answer is that they stick their fingers in their ears, shout lalalala and pretend that it's still the good old days.
#3581
Re: 2020 Election
I am one of the few round here with an anti-Trump bumper sticker, much to the dismay of my boss and several customers. Just changed out my 3 year old 'Any Functioning Adult 2020' for 'ByeDon 2020'...
#3582
Re: 2020 Election
Example, today's personal Trumpster derp encounter.
Today, I was working in a middle-of-the-road trailer park, many permanent residents, not too posh, not too dire, round here that makes it a stronghold for the retired Trump voter. 9.30am I am approached by a potential customer, can't help him but he's the sort of old scroat that wants to chat regardless, pleasant enough but one of those types who has no concept of personal space, even in these times, let alone can manage to social distance himself. So then we start that delightful social dance whereby he stands 12' from my face, I back off, he closes in, I back off. Pre-Sarscov2 that was one of my pet hates so you can imagine what it did for my blood pressure!! I manage to get rid of him by fobbing him off with the company card and telling him to call the boss.
Rest of the day proceeds uneventfully, 3pm I need the restroom, my customer is high risk and although she said feel free to use the facilities indoors I'm not about to put her at risk unnecessarily so head down to the site restrooms. Lo and behold the whole place is deserted and locked up. Note on the door saying that xxx resident died from Covid, all facilities will remain closed until further notice and could anyone that had contact with xxx get tested, etc, etc.
It is at this point I remember that the boss had asked me earlier in the week if I'd be OK to work in this park because of the death and it is at this point I will terminate this rapidly expanding shaggy dog story and just say WTF was the old bloke doing in my face when he must know there's a good reason all the other old dears are staying indoors on this park.
Ask many of them and they throw you that old Fox News bone about Fauci changing his mind all the time and they don't know what to believe anymore so their answer is that they stick their fingers in their ears, shout lalalala and pretend that it's still the good old days.
Today, I was working in a middle-of-the-road trailer park, many permanent residents, not too posh, not too dire, round here that makes it a stronghold for the retired Trump voter. 9.30am I am approached by a potential customer, can't help him but he's the sort of old scroat that wants to chat regardless, pleasant enough but one of those types who has no concept of personal space, even in these times, let alone can manage to social distance himself. So then we start that delightful social dance whereby he stands 12' from my face, I back off, he closes in, I back off. Pre-Sarscov2 that was one of my pet hates so you can imagine what it did for my blood pressure!! I manage to get rid of him by fobbing him off with the company card and telling him to call the boss.
Rest of the day proceeds uneventfully, 3pm I need the restroom, my customer is high risk and although she said feel free to use the facilities indoors I'm not about to put her at risk unnecessarily so head down to the site restrooms. Lo and behold the whole place is deserted and locked up. Note on the door saying that xxx resident died from Covid, all facilities will remain closed until further notice and could anyone that had contact with xxx get tested, etc, etc.
It is at this point I remember that the boss had asked me earlier in the week if I'd be OK to work in this park because of the death and it is at this point I will terminate this rapidly expanding shaggy dog story and just say WTF was the old bloke doing in my face when he must know there's a good reason all the other old dears are staying indoors on this park.
Ask many of them and they throw you that old Fox News bone about Fauci changing his mind all the time and they don't know what to believe anymore so their answer is that they stick their fingers in their ears, shout lalalala and pretend that it's still the good old days.
Love the ByeDon pun ... haven't seen or heard that one so far!
#3583
Re: 2020 Election
There's no WAY I would display such a bumper sticker here in rural GA. My truck would end up with a slashed tire or something similar.
#3584
Re: 2020 Election
That was my worry when we drove up to the middle of nowhere SC, through the middle of nowhere GA just recently. Mind you, I do have the advantage of being an ugly looking mo-fo, and although I'm 5'10" I've got shoulders to match the old Bulls coach, Phil Thomas and a rapidly growing Rona beard which would fit in nicely with the old Duck Dynasty crowd, all of which combined make me look like a no-nonsense demented dwarf. One of the reasons for becoming a USC at the earliest possible time is because I have a very rarely displayed but filthy temper when provoked...
#3585
Heading for Poppyland
Joined: Jul 2007
Location: North Norfolk and northern New York State
Posts: 14,531
Re: 2020 Election
We haven’t had a bumper sticker or any similar personalization on the car for 25 years (since living in Boston.) We live in a Republican region, and although most people are perfectly law-abiding and considerate, we generally fly under the radar in terms of expressing political opinions.