2020 Election
#3556
Lost in BE Cyberspace
Joined: Jan 2006
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 12,865
Re: 2020 Election
Talking of Antifa, these fake stories on social media are pretty funny, particularly when they drag so many racist clowns out of the woodwork:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/inves...73b_story.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/inves...73b_story.html
#3558
Re: 2020 Election
That first article above is just utterly disgraceful. I didn't realize such gatherings were even remotely possible at this time. The reluctance of the church group to actively notify parents is awful. Update - I found this article on Business Insider just now; I think it's the same summer camp ... https://www.businessinsider.com/covi...ok-like-2020-7
The other articles, though, all seem to simply confirm that children can catch, and spread, the virus, which I don't think is in much dispute. If the issue were a simple trade-off between kids being in school vs catching the virus, there'd be no contest - the need for in-person schooling would outweigh the limited danger to the children themselves. But the clear evidence that the kids are just as infectious as everyone else, and therefore likely to spread to other kids and their parents/families/friends/community, that's the big issue in my mind.
The other articles, though, all seem to simply confirm that children can catch, and spread, the virus, which I don't think is in much dispute. If the issue were a simple trade-off between kids being in school vs catching the virus, there'd be no contest - the need for in-person schooling would outweigh the limited danger to the children themselves. But the clear evidence that the kids are just as infectious as everyone else, and therefore likely to spread to other kids and their parents/families/friends/community, that's the big issue in my mind.
#3559
Re: 2020 Election
There is some really odd illogical stuff out there . It is a virus ! Children will be able to be just as infectious as the next human. Their younger immune systems may be more resilient for most of them to start with but it is still a damaging spreadable virus. Why would anyone risk that.
#3560
Lost in BE Cyberspace
Joined: Jan 2006
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Posts: 12,865
Re: 2020 Election
There is some really odd illogical stuff out there . It is a virus ! Children will be able to be just as infectious as the next human. Their younger immune systems may be more resilient for most of them to start with but it is still a damaging spreadable virus. Why would anyone risk that.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...pers-covid-19/
#3561
Re: 2020 Election
I don't know whether it's in dispute or not. Another poster said that "children are not affected" therefore they should all go back to school. I want to know what "affected" means in that context. Does "not affected" mean that they don't die at the same rate as senior citizens? Does it mean they don't catch the virus or can't spread it? The articles were meant to show that children are most definitely "affected" and in Texas, right now, it's like wildfire among the children.
#3562
Re: 2020 Election
We're in a Florida hotspot, our county has said that parents can choose their child's method of being taught, that automatically removes the choice offered to teachers as many parents rely on their child being in school so that they don't need to pay for care. Teachers here are reluctant to return to the schools, some are calling for pushing back start dates without realizing that the county will be offloading staff in greater numbers the longer schools stay shut - this in addition to the teachers that were cut over the summer vacation when Florida upped it's class size maximum by 3 kids per class.
A school custodian (caretaker) in the county died this week, yesterday a high school sports coach in his 50's in neighbouring Sarasota county passed and also yesterday the local news station reported on a funeral for a Pasco county teacher in her 50's, all Covid related deaths. The teaching community around here is already losing staff and this before we send them back into the places that are ideal breeding grounds for all varieties of nasties.
A school custodian (caretaker) in the county died this week, yesterday a high school sports coach in his 50's in neighbouring Sarasota county passed and also yesterday the local news station reported on a funeral for a Pasco county teacher in her 50's, all Covid related deaths. The teaching community around here is already losing staff and this before we send them back into the places that are ideal breeding grounds for all varieties of nasties.
I haven't heard a single school employee saying they want to go back (in Dallas/Fort Worth) lately. Honestly, I haven't spoken to any parents that want to let their kids go back either. I've heard a lot more chatter about this topic recently. Grandparents are very anti reopening right now. Based on my experience, a few months ago there would have been a more positive response or at least it would have been split opinions.
We're a hotspot too. Almost all of Texas must delay school opening for now. Florida too, it sounds like. If everybody would stop shitting their pants, and following a president who is shitting in his pants, and realize the ONLY way to really reopens schools is to bring the infection rates down. It could only take a few months if we weren't dealing with constant chaos and sabotage from the orange turd. The rest of the civilized world has already done exactly this to varying degrees. What a mess. I'm so disgusted.
I don't know your personal situation but I hope you and everybody that you care about stay healthy.
#3563
Re: 2020 Election
You mean education secretary Betsy de Vos is wrong when she says that children are virus stoppers??
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...pers-covid-19/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...pers-covid-19/
BUMPER STICKER: Vote For Biden, He'll Fire DeVos.
#3564
Re: 2020 Election
#3565
Re: 2020 Election
Ammon Bundy for those interested. I am a little skeptical, but I am open to giving him a bit of leeway
Last edited by kimilseung; Jul 24th 2020 at 2:09 am.
#3566
Re: 2020 Election
Unfortunately, because we have no safety net in American and a piece of shit pig in the White House, so many people will be hurt even though they haven't done anything wrong.
I haven't heard a single school employee saying they want to go back (in Dallas/Fort Worth) lately. Honestly, I haven't spoken to any parents that want to let their kids go back either. I've heard a lot more chatter about this topic recently. Grandparents are very anti reopening right now. Based on my experience, a few months ago there would have been a more positive response or at least it would have been split opinions.
We're a hotspot too. Almost all of Texas must delay school opening for now. Florida too, it sounds like. If everybody would stop shitting their pants, and following a president who is shitting in his pants, and realize the ONLY way to really reopens schools is to bring the infection rates down. It could only take a few months if we weren't dealing with constant chaos and sabotage from the orange turd. The rest of the civilized world has already done exactly this to varying degrees. What a mess. I'm so disgusted.
I don't know your personal situation but I hope you and everybody that you care about stay healthy.
I haven't heard a single school employee saying they want to go back (in Dallas/Fort Worth) lately. Honestly, I haven't spoken to any parents that want to let their kids go back either. I've heard a lot more chatter about this topic recently. Grandparents are very anti reopening right now. Based on my experience, a few months ago there would have been a more positive response or at least it would have been split opinions.
We're a hotspot too. Almost all of Texas must delay school opening for now. Florida too, it sounds like. If everybody would stop shitting their pants, and following a president who is shitting in his pants, and realize the ONLY way to really reopens schools is to bring the infection rates down. It could only take a few months if we weren't dealing with constant chaos and sabotage from the orange turd. The rest of the civilized world has already done exactly this to varying degrees. What a mess. I'm so disgusted.
I don't know your personal situation but I hope you and everybody that you care about stay healthy.
My better half is a department chair and her position means that she has not been given the option of remote teaching when the next semester starts. We both have minor issues that put us at higher risk than other 50 somethings and had a bit of a chat yesterday about financial arrangements should she die prematurely - as an underpaid manual worker immigrant I don't have a pot to piss in so my death would make zero financial difference, as an underpaid teacher in a lower paid county of the state it meant that it was only a five minute chat. This is going to be her 30th year of teaching in this county and thanks to Florida's lack of incentive for staying beyond 30 years this will be her last year here, one way or another, with the intention of banging out another 15 years teaching in SC.
As for staying healthy, thank you for the sentiment, we too hope that your family, everyone on BE and beyond stays well and takes measures to protect themselves and others.
#3567
Re: 2020 Election
I can't speak for the majority but the parents I know around here (who aren't teachers) are keen for their free daycare facilities to start up again so they can get back to not social distancing in their workplaces and joining the rest of the 'ladies that lunch' brigade.
My better half is a department chair and her position means that she has not been given the option of remote teaching when the next semester starts. We both have minor issues that put us at higher risk than other 50 somethings and had a bit of a chat yesterday about financial arrangements should she die prematurely - as an underpaid manual worker immigrant I don't have a pot to piss in so my death would make zero financial difference, as an underpaid teacher in a lower paid county of the state it meant that it was only a five minute chat. This is going to be her 30th year of teaching in this county and thanks to Florida's lack of incentive for staying beyond 30 years this will be her last year here, one way or another, with the intention of banging out another 15 years teaching in SC.
As for staying healthy, thank you for the sentiment, we too hope that your family, everyone on BE and beyond stays well and takes measures to protect themselves and others.
As for staying healthy, thank you for the sentiment, we too hope that your family, everyone on BE and beyond stays well and takes measures to protect themselves and others.
#3568
Re: 2020 Election
One of the "odd, illogical stuff out there" conditions that have occurred in children is called Multisystem Inflammatory Syndrome".
The irony is that it occurs in children who have either recovered from Covid or hadn't been known to have had it because they'd been asymptomatic ( and were only discovered to have had it when tested later).
In both instances their young bodies were subsequently overwhelmed by the massive amount of antibodies produced by their strong immune systems in order to fight Covid. What initially spared them from the potentially lethal virus, then boomeranged to threaten (and sometimes take) their lives.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/mis-c-in-...9/art-20486809
#3569
Re: 2020 Election
Unfortunately, because we have no safety net in American and a piece of shit pig in the White House, so many people will be hurt even though they haven't done anything wrong.
I haven't heard a single school employee saying they want to go back (in Dallas/Fort Worth) lately. Honestly, I haven't spoken to any parents that want to let their kids go back either. I've heard a lot more chatter about this topic recently. Grandparents are very anti reopening right now. Based on my experience, a few months ago there would have been a more positive response or at least it would have been split opinions.
We're a hotspot too. Almost all of Texas must delay school opening for now. Florida too, it sounds like. If everybody would stop shitting their pants, and following a president who is shitting in his pants, and realize the ONLY way to really reopens schools is to bring the infection rates down. It could only take a few months if we weren't dealing with constant chaos and sabotage from the orange turd. The rest of the civilized world has already done exactly this to varying degrees. What a mess. I'm so disgusted.
I don't know your personal situation but I hope you and everybody that you care about stay healthy.
I haven't heard a single school employee saying they want to go back (in Dallas/Fort Worth) lately. Honestly, I haven't spoken to any parents that want to let their kids go back either. I've heard a lot more chatter about this topic recently. Grandparents are very anti reopening right now. Based on my experience, a few months ago there would have been a more positive response or at least it would have been split opinions.
We're a hotspot too. Almost all of Texas must delay school opening for now. Florida too, it sounds like. If everybody would stop shitting their pants, and following a president who is shitting in his pants, and realize the ONLY way to really reopens schools is to bring the infection rates down. It could only take a few months if we weren't dealing with constant chaos and sabotage from the orange turd. The rest of the civilized world has already done exactly this to varying degrees. What a mess. I'm so disgusted.
I don't know your personal situation but I hope you and everybody that you care about stay healthy.
Speaking of 'personal situation' - how is YOUR situation going ... it sounded like you were on the front-lines in a clinic and having to deal daily with morons who would not follow basic guidance (masks, etc). Are people at least getting a BIT more in tune where you are? I abandoned AZ because I just couldn't see people taking it seriously. It seems like they are finally doing so ...
#3570
Re: 2020 Election
I loathe how gleeful she must have felt today when Trump, during his Corona conference wank, threatened to take the money meant for each State's public schools and divert it to religious or private institutions if a State didn't re-open its schools in the fall. Not only is it outrageous. It's unlawful