2020 Election
#3361
Re: 2020 Election
Have you looked into Trump at all? His "executive experience" translates basically into running an organized crime family. I guess maybe you do have to have certain skills to do that. Why you find that preferable to people who have actually held office or worked in government is really down to your complete lack of judgement.
#3362
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Re: 2020 Election
Have you looked into Trump at all? His "executive experience" translates basically into running an organized crime family. I guess maybe you do have to have certain skills to do that. Why you find that preferable to people who have actually held office or worked in government is really down to your complete lack of judgement.
As far as a politician who has spend his whole life apparently living off a government paycheck, mostly in the Washington bubble like many of this fellow Republican and Democratic colleagues, I don't see Biden as an agent for serious change or having any real vision.
#3363
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Re: 2020 Election
However shady Trump's business practices may have been, he has had some management experience, plus experience outside of Washington and not just on government payroll. I don't see it as lack of judgement to think a criteria to be considered for Presidency or any executive job to have had some executive experience whether in the private or military sector or for that matter in the government sector such as having been a governor. That doesn't mean Trump meets all the criteria one would wish for, nor approval of how he conducted business.
As far as a politician who has spend his whole life apparently living off a government paycheck, mostly in the Washington bubble like many of this fellow Republican and Democratic colleagues, I don't see Biden as an agent for serious change or having any real vision.
As far as a politician who has spend his whole life apparently living off a government paycheck, mostly in the Washington bubble like many of this fellow Republican and Democratic colleagues, I don't see Biden as an agent for serious change or having any real vision.
If neither of these things happen then surely America is in for 4 more years of the same with Trump second term same as the first.
Last edited by andyrebell; Jul 8th 2020 at 9:53 am.
#3364
Re: 2020 Election
This is not a 'change' election in the true sense of the word. Of course many people want to 'change' Trump, but it's more about a reversion to the sort of politics that wasn't so 'in your face' as life under the Trump administration is.
#3365
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Re: 2020 Election
But surely if Biden reverses what Trump has done and the things he has signed bans etc and stops this whole fake news thing which is Trump's baby and takes things like the coronavirus a bit more seriously (if he remembers to call it by it's correct name) then it that not in itself real change?. Plus if he embraces the black lives matter movement?. On the other hand Kayne West might ban snitchin and get rid of all law enforcement in his america and sell the witsec list for billions to fund healthcare and education.
If neither of these things happen then surely America is in for 4 more years of the same with Trump second term same as the first.
If neither of these things happen then surely America is in for 4 more years of the same with Trump second term same as the first.
#3367
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Re: 2020 Election
Kayne West has no hope in hell of winning if he is indeed turning this into a 3 horse race. All he can hope to is to deflect the so called black lives matter vote away from Biden because that vote won't go to Trump and Trump voters won't vote for him if they can vote for Trump. How many white members of the so called black lives matter will vote for Kayne West a black rapper loudmouth? Very few. He will get the black section of that vote away from Biden and put Trump back into the white house. And to do that he will maybe speak to them on their terms. Defund the police, stop snitchnin or stop grassing in english money. And maybe rap a little or mention the english tv show with Robbie Coltrane (the blacks insult to a white man) in reference to Biden though I don't think he will do that.
I think he actually if he serious about running he is being very clever in keeping Trump in to push his own 2024 agenda forward. He has much more chance of replacing Trump than pushing out Biden in 2024.
I think he actually if he serious about running he is being very clever in keeping Trump in to push his own 2024 agenda forward. He has much more chance of replacing Trump than pushing out Biden in 2024.
#3368
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Re: 2020 Election
That doesn't mean Trump meets all the criteria one would wish for, nor approval of how he conducted business.
As far as a politician who has spend his whole life apparently living off a government paycheck, mostly in the Washington bubble like many of this fellow Republican and Democratic colleagues, I don't see Biden as an agent for serious change or having any real vision.
As far as a politician who has spend his whole life apparently living off a government paycheck, mostly in the Washington bubble like many of this fellow Republican and Democratic colleagues, I don't see Biden as an agent for serious change or having any real vision.
Donald doesn't meet ALL of the criteria one would wish for?
He's a pathological liar, incompetent, intellectually indifferent, self-centered, a blowhard, a multiple bankrupt, vindictive, lazy, refuses to pay contractors or other debts he owes, a racist, and a probable traitor. He worships dictators like Putin and Kim Jong Un, and has alienated all of our strategic allies (possibly on order from Putin).
How about saying that he doesn't meet ANY of the criteria?
In regard to your comment about Biden, how does dedicating your life to public service (instead of cashing in on business victims) disqualify anyone for higher office?
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#3369
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Re: 2020 Election
However shady Trump's business practices may have been, he has had some management experience, plus experience outside of Washington and not just on government payroll. I don't see it as lack of judgement to think a criteria to be considered for Presidency or any executive job to have had some executive experience whether in the private or military sector or for that matter in the government sector such as having been a governor. That doesn't mean Trump meets all the criteria one would wish for, nor approval of how he conducted business.
As far as a politician who has spend his whole life apparently living off a government paycheck, mostly in the Washington bubble like many of this fellow Republican and Democratic colleagues, I don't see Biden as an agent for serious change or having any real vision.
As far as a politician who has spend his whole life apparently living off a government paycheck, mostly in the Washington bubble like many of this fellow Republican and Democratic colleagues, I don't see Biden as an agent for serious change or having any real vision.
And given that Trump's management experience has entirely been experience in business failures, why would that experience qualify him for the presidency?
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Re: 2020 Election
Donald doesn't meet ALL of the criteria one would wish for?
He's a pathological liar, incompetent, intellectually indifferent, self-centered, a blowhard, a multiple bankrupt, vindictive, lazy, refuses to pay contractors or other debts he owes, a racist, and a probable traitor. He worships dictators like Putin and Kim Jong Un, and has alienated all of our strategic allies (possibly on order from Putin).
How about saying that he doesn't meet ANY of the criteria?
In regard to your comment about Biden, how does dedicating your life to public service (instead of cashing in on business victims) disqualify anyone for higher office?
He's a pathological liar, incompetent, intellectually indifferent, self-centered, a blowhard, a multiple bankrupt, vindictive, lazy, refuses to pay contractors or other debts he owes, a racist, and a probable traitor. He worships dictators like Putin and Kim Jong Un, and has alienated all of our strategic allies (possibly on order from Putin).
How about saying that he doesn't meet ANY of the criteria?
In regard to your comment about Biden, how does dedicating your life to public service (instead of cashing in on business victims) disqualify anyone for higher office?
#3371
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Re: 2020 Election
As far as Biden as far as I know a lifelong politician living off the taxpayer I have just pointed out I am unaware of any experience he has had in charge in an executive role either in the private, military sectors as say for example as a governor.
#3372
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Re: 2020 Election
Clearly Trump has had experience that isn't "entirely been experience in business failures" , clearly he has had some management and hard-negotiating experience. I wrote he had some experience in executive roles, not the best experience or type of experience one would prefer.
As far as Biden as far as I know a lifelong politician living off the taxpayer I have just pointed out I am unaware of any experience he has had in charge in an executive role either in the private, military sectors as say for example as a governor.
As far as Biden as far as I know a lifelong politician living off the taxpayer I have just pointed out I am unaware of any experience he has had in charge in an executive role either in the private, military sectors as say for example as a governor.
Biden does have executive experience, his 8 years as Vice President.
I have often said Trump is every bit the saltwater crocodile as those in the Beltway Swamp like the Clintons etc, he is just from a different swamp and so an invasive species.
#3374
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Re: 2020 Election
Today begins the painting of the Mural BlacklivesMatter down 5th avenue in front of Trump Tower. How awesome is that!
If I were in that area there is no doubt the Mrs & I would gladly volunteer our time for a little brush work. Hope they use the shiny glow in the dark paint!
If I were in that area there is no doubt the Mrs & I would gladly volunteer our time for a little brush work. Hope they use the shiny glow in the dark paint!
#3375
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Re: 2020 Election
Of course Trump has successful business and negotiating experience, just good luck getting some of the vociferous here to tone down their wild hyperboles.
Biden does have executive experience, his 8 years as Vice President.
I have often said Trump is every bit the saltwater crocodile as those in the Beltway Swamp like the Clintons etc, he is just from a different swamp and so an invasive species.
Biden does have executive experience, his 8 years as Vice President.
I have often said Trump is every bit the saltwater crocodile as those in the Beltway Swamp like the Clintons etc, he is just from a different swamp and so an invasive species.
Invasive species a good description.