moneypenny20

Apparently West (why won't you mention his name?) is now saying he's running. Against Trump. https://www.theguardian.com/music/20...sident-in-2020

andyrebell

Because maybe I am libel on a public forum but I really do think a good crux of his campaign will be stop snitchin that sort of thing to get the black votes.

How can Kayne West run if his is a republican when Trump is the incumbent? He might cost the Trump the election among other factors if he runs as a third candidate an independent?.

The Republican voters will go to him not Trump but not all them will a good number of them probably won't. He might do damage to Biden If his campaign slogan is stop snitchin america defund the police et al and if he is able to tap into that Black lives matter movement not all of whom are black and not of whom agree with so called stop snitchin views of some sections of the african american community in some cities. So maybe with that in mind he can't do enough damage to deflect Biden away from the white house if that is his intent.

It is a publicity stunt and a badly timed one in my opinion. He will be a joke if he became president. In all seriousness can you imagine him using the N Word both on the campaign trail or if he mentions Fitz the character that Robbie Coltrane played in the 90s. I don't want to get banned for typing the word the blacks use to describe white people.

morpeth

The question would apply to any candidate of either party, and certainly Trump did not have the experience one would prefer in a
President though he did have executive experience on the other hand proudly says he doesn't need to read things and a whole list of other astonishing thoughts for a President.

morpeth

I think should be the right question but perhaps not a popular one on the right or left.

My take many of his voters just fed up with being lectured and looked down upon, in disagreement with the emerging new culture, or stagnant real wages- and decided to take a chance, with the opinion that Hilary was just more of the same. Whether Biden can connect with enough people in the swing states we will see.

moneypenny20

Of going bankrupt four times.

retzie

To be fair, that is likely quite relevant experience for the hole he has dug himself into.

morpeth

Yes he has had both success and failure in his career, certainly he met his personal objectives of craftily building his riches and his own brand.he used the bankruptcy laws to bail himself out, but that doesn't change the fact he has had some management experience. Doesn't mean overall he had the experience one would prefer in a President,any more than Biden who as far I know has never had any sort of job with real responsibility except being a professional politician. Cant say much for either as potential president, and even worse Biden's criteria for vice president is not suitable experience but meeting some identity politics objective.

UkWinds5353

My take is that many of those people that feel lectured to and looked down upon, believe minimal involvement on their part by voting only once every four years, if that, and believing that small effort should be more than enough to make the change they wish to happen in government.

That is not how achieving good governance happens. If you ask most of those same people if they voted in off year presidential elections, and got involved in local elections, there would be a huge percentage that would say they did not. Success in many endeavors in life quite often comes to those that want it the most and who are diligent in seeking out those goals.

Picking anyone with Donald Trump's resume was the act of a voter with not only poor impulse control but someone that does not value research analysis.

There was more than enough information in the public square to warn a voter that our current situation was possible with Trump in the White House. He is probably one of if not the least honest Presidents our country has ever seen. Trump uses bankruptcy not as a last resort after making poor decisions. He instead uses bankruptcy as a business scam to enter into agreements knowing full well that once he has secured funding for a "legitimate" project he takes that lenders cash out of that project and conducts a bust out. He's done it four times each with him leaving vendors and lenders all holding the bag. There is a laundry list of people that have performed excellent work and was never paid. And I'm not putting down people who have to legitimately go bankrupt in order to protect their home, but to do it multiple times in order to game the system is exactly why Trump is known in the NYC area as a conman.

American banks will not finance his projects and that is why he seeks out foreign lenders. Which makes me wonder why Trump supporters have not asked themselves why is it that American banks will not touch Trump.

I'm fully aware that not everyone has lived in the NYC area and for that reason some might not know the means the Trump family has used to build their wealth. But Trump was not difficult to figure out. Sadly many of the Trump supporters will not only pay a financial price due to the Trump presidency but some will also have their health threatened because of the mishandled virus.

andyrebell

Then again Kayne West is a self made billionaire yes?

Be interested to see how much of his own money he will throw away to deflect support away from Biden whilst giving him the taste of running for office whilst ensuring the republican platform to do it in 2024. Especially if takes it seriously. He has a lot better chance of winning as "uniter of the country" in a republican hat if he is to be the incumbent to Trump as opposed to the ouster of Biden/Lance-Bottoms after their first term.

Giantaxe

When he ran in '16, The Economist investigation of his finances concluded that he would have been considerably better investing the money his dad gave him in the S&P 500 index.

HDWill

To be fair, putting all your money in a stock fund and not touching it for decades doesn't let you lead the billionaire lifestyle Trump led (which I'm guessing that Economist calculation was based on).

Steerpike

Here's an article today that makes the connection I suggested above:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ses-are-rising
(paywall but with limited 'free' views) .

morpeth

You wrote : "
Picking anyone with Donald Trump's resume was the act of a voter with not only poor impulse control but someone that does not value research analysis."

Think you may be still missing it- many voted simply tired of being lectured to, tired of not getting ahead in real wages, tired of the Washington politicians of both parties, and certainly electing Hilary would just be more of the same, so decided to roll the dice I listened to Hillary during the campaign,hardly did I get the impression of a bold economic thinker who would.get the economy moving and cared about working class Americans.The things Trump says that the left goes into fits about, a lot of Americans just appreciate someone willing to speak their mind regardless of what the Media, Academia, or Californians might think.. The last county I lived in America I knew lifelong Democrat voters who held their nose and voted for Trump, and under no illusions about his numerous faults.

Biden when he wants to be can be just as rude and obnoxious, watch the vice Presidential debate he had with Paul Ryan, If he can get the energy and perform like that in a debate with Trump, Trump won't know what hit him.

I would have preferred a real choice, say between Rand Paul and Sanders. Instead again two poor choices..

Leslie

Have you looked into Trump at all? His "executive experience" translates basically into running an organized crime family. I guess maybe you do have to have certain skills to do that. Why you find that preferable to people who have actually held office or worked in government is really down to your complete lack of judgement.

UkWinds5353

Donald Trump's niece's tell all book is a blockbuster and I now see why Trump tried to get the court system to block its release. Basically the book says uncle Trump is a sociopath and that quote is coming directly from his family member that is a qualified psychologist.

The book also confirms what I've said how Trump approaches business decisions like bankruptcy. He doesn't go bankrupt to protect his assets, no, instead he uses the act of bankruptcy to scam banks out of the money they loan him. That certainly explains why none of the American banks will do business with him. It makes you wonder if Trump supporters don't care that he is a crook or if they aren't smart enough to know what he is.