2020 Election

Old May 28th 2020, 12:21 pm
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Originally Posted by zzrmark
Rule #1 before quoting fact on the internet: Visit the source material before being tempted to relay misinformation. It's no wonder this world has gone to shit with people believing everything social media tells them.
Originally Posted by robin1234
This really is not true.
(scroll to 17:00)

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Old May 28th 2020, 12:26 pm
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Biden seems to have a real temper problem, he's shown it several times before. He can't stand to be contradicted, or have his record criticized, or really be challenged robustly at all.

I fear for him in the debates, and I'm leaning Dem in this election.
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Originally Posted by BritInParis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOIFs_SryHI (scroll to 17:00)

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Huh??? It’s an interesting video, so thanks for that. But I’m not sure what the point is you’re making.
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Originally Posted by robin1234
Huh??? It’s an interesting video, so thanks for that. But I’m not sure what the point is you’re making.
Then I'm afraid I can't help you.
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Originally Posted by BritInParis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOIFs_SryHI (scroll to 17:00)

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Ha. That's like the time I quoted from AOC's web site and got told by a Usual Suspect that the quote was made-up by right-wingers.

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That being said I will vote for Biden. We have two nominees whose combined age is what, 150?

He had a similar faux pas back in 2008, he praised Obama as an "African-American who was clean" or something like that. It was a minor scandal that went away and then Obama picked him as VP.
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Old May 28th 2020, 2:23 pm
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Originally Posted by BritInParis
Then I'm afraid I can't help you.
Well I’ll attempt to help you. You misread or misinterpreted my very simple post. (I think I wrote “that’s not true”.) So the reference you made, minute 17 of a video, was not relevant.
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Amazing what happens if you are Black and vote GOP.
I interpreted that picture as the GOP trying to purge black voters from the eligible voters list and ending up taking away white voters too.

Biden might be great at putting his foot in his mouth, but he's not actively disenfranchising people like Trump.
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Originally Posted by robin1234
Well I’ll attempt to help you. You misread or misinterpreted my very simple post. (I think I wrote “that’s not true”.) So the reference you made, minute 17 of a video, was not relevant.
At this point you're either being exceedingly dim or deliberately disingenuous. Either way I still can't help you.
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Originally Posted by Giantaxe
Meanwhile, as our Tara Reade correspondent has gone "strangely" quiet on the subject of her allegations against Biden, here's an update:

"Reade, under the name Alexandra McCabe, for years testified as an expert in domestic violence cases for the California D.A.’s office. Among the issues is whether she lied about her credentials to qualify as an expert.

“We are investigating whether Ms. McCabe gave false testimony under oath,” Monterey County Chief Assistant District Attorney Berkley Brannon told POLITICO on Tuesday.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...igation-283592
...and returning to her allegations against Joe Biden - a NY Times podcast conversation between 3 of its OpEd columnists, published today :

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/28/o...-mccorvey.html
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Originally Posted by civilservant
Biden seems to have a real temper problem, he's shown it several times before. He can't stand to be contradicted, or have his record criticized, or really be challenged robustly at all.

I fear for him in the debates, and I'm leaning Dem in this election.
My favourite was Biden having a stand-up row with an auto assembly worker in Michigan over 2A rights, telling that he was "full of sh*t" and when the guy quoted his own words back at him he asked him to step outside. Combined with his cognitive decline means the less the public see of him, the better it is for his campaign. It's a miserable state of affairs to be in given how many candidates the Democrats had to pick from.
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Combined with his cognitive decline
That's a but of a cheap shot. Are you a Doctor? Just to be clear, regardless of his failings of a candidate, he's a billion times better than the current occupant of 1600 Penn Avenue.
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Originally Posted by BritInParis
My favourite was Biden having a stand-up row with an auto assembly worker in Michigan over 2A rights, telling that he was "full of sh*t" and when the guy quoted his own words back at him he asked him to step outside. Combined with his cognitive decline means the less the public see of him, the better it is for his campaign. It's a miserable state of affairs to be in given how many candidates the Democrats had to pick from.
It's not going to be an issue especially considering his opponent Trump is telling every coronavirus victim to ingest disinfectant to cure infection. It's a battle of old guys but the mean spirited one is actually crazy. Btw, another 2,000,000 people had to file for unemployment benefits. Thank you Donald Trump! Is it any wonder that Biden is beating Trump in nearly every swing state of consequence. We are at officially 40,000,000 unemployed but the real figure is probably closer to 50,000,000.
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Originally Posted by civilservant
Biden seems to have a real temper problem, he's shown it several times before. He can't stand to be contradicted, or have his record criticized, or really be challenged robustly at all.
If only he were British, then he would just be a bit cross and exhibit some mild tutting.


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You're generous with your time; you efforts are to be applauded.
But reading the following lengthy, detailed piece today (which I found a bit overwhelming/depressing) - leads me to wonder whether what you're doing in 2020 is a tad yesterday:
(Unless your activities are keyed into one of these behemoth enterpri$e$......?)....................

https://www.vox.com/recode/2020/5/27...z-eric-schmidt
Thank you for your kind words. The above link is an Interesting article and definitely demonstrates the power of digital reach which is considerable, but never forget the power of grass roots organizing with feet on the ground. Talking to people directly face to face when people are receptive to your candidate and message is extremely effective when trying to influence an electorate. But if a particular candidate has a damaged brand (Trump) having an advantage technically and financially will only get you so far and often falls on deaf ears. Let's not forget that Bernie had all the financial and technical advantages but it was the voting public that decided who to put forth.

I always tell people that each effort, and individual can make a difference, and attitude can take you a great distance in this world. Many of us in our little organization have gone out and spoken to adults that had made mistakes in their young lives and for that reason were ineligible to vote until the recent changes in the state of Florida's laws. We stressed to them about the importance of being a force of one, and how it feels so much better making the effort to change a bad status quo and not just sitting around complaining. What happened in Minnesota with the murder of that innocent man should encourage people to use their power to make changes in policing but that influence begins in valuing the right to elect officials that represent our idea of a decent society.

A small team of canvassers can blanket an area that is filled with people that don't understand the power of their single vote when combined with other first time voters. And some of those people can not be reached by digital means with the same level of influence as a warm body standing in front of them expressing the importance of being heard and felt. My team will be in minority communities throughout the state of Wisconsin in a few months. People sometimes forget that the 2000 Presidential election was decided by just 538 measly votes in my state of Florida where a lot of strange things can happen when people are asked to mark a ballot. I have personally registered 993 people in one presidential election cycle, and 965 actually did vote. Just shows how one motivated person can be a force of change.

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