Steerpike

That's a massive 'only'. The important part here is, in the context of the election, you are asking people to vote for something that takes away what they already have in favor of something they haven't yet seen work. There are massive political land-mines facing this strategy. The Affordable Care Act was very unpopular when it first came out but has slowly grown in popularity over the past 8 years or so as people have come to see its benefits. Why not ride on this existing popularity and make substantial improvements to it?

dc koop

Yes if we suddenly paid strawberry pickers the big bucks for unskilled work they would be much better off but you would not be able to afford a bag of strawberries at your local food store . Not many other people would be able to afford them either and very, very soon the stores would pull them off the shelves because they were going bad and then they would tell the strawberry farmers that we don't need strawberries anymore because sales are non existent so then the strawberry famer tells his workers to pack up and go back home and they go back to Mexico where there's no work and they live like shit in some hovel surrounded by bad guys, crooked cops and risk being killed every day by being caught in a cross fire between rival drug cartels. Paste that in your scrap book.

dc koop

Stupid suggestion. What makes you think in your arrogance that every American wants to "integrated/herded/forced" into Med for All. You've obviously just stepped off the boat and know nothing about the American way of thinking. They don't like to be pushed around by Big Government especially if they're happy with their own choices. Unlike you they're not a bunch of sheep in homo sapiens clothing

dc koop

The homeless are mostly where they are by bad choices. The poor if they never messed with alcohol and drugs should be given opportunities in job training. housing assistance and food stamps and in fact in the case of the latter two cases many of them are receiving such assistance. I never needed food stamps when I first arrived here but I lived in an apartment building (Not a section 8 development) which was low rent for those who were working in steady jobs.

UkWinds5353

Was Sanders an experienced politician who knows how Washington works when he lost to Hillary Clinton in 2016? Is Sanders an experienced Washington magician when he has not found a way to become popular with Hispanic and African American voters? My point is you seem like a guy that have a overly amount of admiration for Bernie but no one politician is more important than the people they are elected to serve. He and all politicians are nothing more than a vessel used to accomplish certain goals. We are not electing a Messiah.
And you are forgetting some major key factors in your rush to turn America's healthcare system into a European carbon copy. America is very against foreign ways on a multitude of topics and in fact this is a country that prides it's self on doing things and achieving goals with a mentality of self reliance. A nanny state in America is a kin to being considered a failure. Libertarian ways are applauded. Achieving goals based on help from others is considered a form of weakness. For some reason you want to ignore all those facts and want to believe that in this age of a well devised 90 second attack campaign commercial that Bernie is not going to be demonized to moderate voters. And that his decision to take away private healthcare from voter's job is going to be accepted with open arms. I don't see the reasoning at all.

We also would have to cut back on some major national agendas like maintaining a huge world class military. For years I have felt that we should stop spending so much money on our arm forces but even suggesting cutting military spending would virtually destroy a candidate's run for office. You know that as a fact that any nominee for President would have to espouse certain goals and a military ready to react to any and all threats is at the top of the list. Bernie's healthcare for all via Medicaid would definitely mean a major cut in military spending. I'm not saying your goals aren't noble or just they simply are not best suited for a country like the States. Getting Obama Care accomplished was a major deal in this country. Socialist should put their focus on trying to make it better for everyone.

dc koop

She should have been on that track from the beginning. It's a little surprising that for all their varsity educations and intellect some politicians run on platforms that are either non starters from the beginning or doomed to die by the wayside later on.

Bloomberg is steadily pissing away his chances of being nominated. He's skipped Iowa and New Hampshire and now concentrating on getting the numbers up in California. Meg Whitman spent around 141 million dollars in her bid for Governor against Jerry Brown and lost. Tom Steyer a California multi millionaire Republican is running his own campaign against Trump. So far paid around 58 million of his money and at one percent approval rating. Bloomberg currently at two percent. Neither obviously have learned from history that billionaires rarely if ever win elections in California regardless of the money they.ve thrown into the effort

UkWinds5353

Can we get everyone to be just a little kinder to one another especially over the Holidays.

johnwoo

Responding with your usual nonsense.
It was your opinion that multi millionaires deserved to get $10+ million because they "worked Hard". You that equated high income with hard work, was it not?

dc koop

I think all of us should

dc koop

How much should a strawberry and orange picker get then? Many people become wealthy through their acquisition of knowledge in a certain profession and in their efforts to project their learning and skills towards marketing those skills to the benefit of others and of course to themselves and why the hell not? It involves hard work and sacrifice on the way there though

Others remain poor because they are either unable to or don't bother to learn a skill that would pay much better. Reality check ! There will always be hewers of wood and carriers of water because that's the world is and always has been

I've always found a curious comparison between Americans and Europeans. As a generalization the European mentality is to despise the acquisition of wealth. The fact that the wealth was acquired in some cases by hard work is irrelevant. On the other hand as a generalization the American mentality is to acquire wealth and success.

I grew up in a working class staunchly Labour/ Communist society. You learned to accept your place in the pecking order of things. Not to marked you out as an arse kisser amongst your peers and it was not a pleasant way to exist as a young person in that world should you earn that reputation

Ingles

This "kick's" Trump & his Family right in there naughty parts
The truth comes out ,@ bloody long last !
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...l-relationship

zargof

What does this mean? Clinton lost in 2008, your boy Biden lost twice. Total non sequitur.
This is not true, stop lying. If you really think this is true, then prove it. But I'll tell you, you won't find any polls that back up this baseless assertion.
Oh FFS you get worse and worse with your cluelessness. Bernie's campaign slogan is "Not Me. Us." It's all about building a movement, which he started in his last Presidential run and is continuing to build now. Now you can argue that it may not be effective, but stop with this ignorant nonsense about him being a Messiah.


Based on what? Try taking away social security and medicare. See how libertarian Americans are then. Cut the police and fire departments, see how that goes. What flavour of boot is your favourite? You really have no idea of the struggles of average Americans

You say cutting the military is a bad thing, give me a break. They added something like an extra $100M to the military budget last year, more than enough to pay for free college for everyone. But no-one ever asked who to pay for the military. Damn right the military should be cut. Stop giving all this defense contractors massive profits.

You're a Republican, why do you think you know what is best for the Democratic party? It's very clear you have no idea.

zargof

Here's the thing. What makes you think Americans like the current system. They're already "forced" into what healthcare they have by their employer. There is no real choice. This image of rugged individualism is nonsense. We already know how much you love your Medicare "forced" on you by Big Government.

scrubbedexpat099

I am not sure many realise what Medicare4All means, not scientific but my impression is that most think it will be free it like Medicaid, what does Medicare cost for most currently, $600 pm nby the time you have bought the extras and of course Medicare does not cover everything.

johnwoo

Depends where ones priorities lie. People that put food on the table, wipe your ass when your in the nursing home. take care of essential service as menial as they maybe. Or those that work for Facebook,Twitter, Instagram and the rest. All of which we could well do without.
I put more value on those working in the fields than I do Mark Zuckerberg.
Spare me I'm a working class boy pulled myself up by my bootstraps. Your nothing special.