Giantaxe

To use your debating tactic, you don't take AOC to her word that Pelosi is "absolutely not" a racist?

Not sure what this has to do with a thread on 2020 anyway. Neither person is running for election as president.

I think we should run a poll to see what the next race-based post is from Boiler.

scrubbedexpat099

Presumably she was reminded where the supremacy in the Party resides. Difficult for her to answer otherwise without raising a major storm.

jukin

Been in the USA since 2004 - from UK, married a US citizen. I have not applied for citizenship and I'm glad of that now. I am so sickened by how this country has changed over the last two years that I've told my wife that if he gets back in, in 2020, I'm gone. I will be headed to Ecuador as it is affordable and has free health care - something my old ass will be grateful for. I'd love her to come with me but the choice is hers and I'll respect whichever way she chooses. I don't think I've ever hated a group of people so much as that mob in the Reichstag. America is far more poisonous than I ever expected - seeing the number of evangelicals that love Trump makes it clear to me that satan has moved into delegating in a big way. And now, today, I read that the Jewish wife of a billionaire wants a book of Trump to be added to the bible. This place is too ******* crazy for me. If crazy still rules after November 2020 then I'm gone. Could not live in this country any longer.

caretaker

Other options are stay and add your voice to the opposition, (lots of the celebrities who said they'd leave if Trump got in had second thoughts and elected to try to become part of the solution), or go to Canada, thus affording your OH the opportunity for easy visits home. I used to enjoy travelling down to the states but now it seems the toxic environment begins at the border so renewing my passport was a waste of money.
Oh, and welcome to the forum.

scrubbedexpat099

Canada has elections in October.

BenK91

Could be worse, crooked Hillary could've been at the helm..

scrubbedexpat099

Not a big fan of alternative history but can envisage another war in the Gulf.

scrubbedexpat099

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...pshire-1415644

This one I can see as much more difficult for Biden to defend. This could be the final nail in his campaign.

Giantaxe

Meanwhile Democratic polls are showing Biden well ahead:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...atic/national/

Will be interesting to see how quickly the "also rans" drop out. Really, there are probably only five (maybe four) people in with chance of the nomination.

scrubbedexpat099

It is early days and first you need to win the nomination. I am not sure there are any polls that accurately track that.

How long candidates stay in may not be relevant to their polling, there are a variety of reasons someone would enter. I think so far one out and one in so the numbers are the same.

Giantaxe

Those were polls for the Democratic nomination.

Of course. Fund raising being one. The Democratic Party quite cynically made that part of the debate entry criteria. Not sure there are any "vanity" candidates in there, expect maybe Williamson but I do expect a bunch of withdrawals after the next debate.

Steerpike

Do you think anyone not in (Biden, Sanders, Warren, Harris) has a hope?
I'm encouraged to see Sanders not leading. My g/f still says she would sit out the election if Biden stands, which is disheartening ... she's really opposed to Biden for some reason! I could go for Warren if needed; she has the sincerity and policy wonk features to go with the job. I guess I would prefer Harris, Warren, Biden, Sanders at this point.

Giantaxe

I give Buttigieg a very small chance. The rest, none at all. Disappointed to see Klobuchar getting nowhere.

I'm undecided at this point but naturally will vote for any Democratic candidate given the opponent.

scrubbedexpat099

Something I had not been aware I has assumed Warren and Sanders were going for the same sort of demographics, but it seems there is not much commonality, so assuming if one drops out their supporters will move to the other is not a given.

Warren did publish her Immigration Policy but difficult to work out the logic. She will increase the number of Refugees to I think 250,000 but no limit on asylum seekers. The difference is one of location so once the limit for Refugees is reached would they not just seek asylum?

kimilseung

I have not read her policy, but from what you have written, I assume refugee in context is organized from outside of the US. Asylum is from within the US