Ingles

Immaterial - The question is ,why place all these restrictions in the first place !
Traditionally are not ALL avenues off making a Legal Case normally open to argument
Any body got any answers ?

Steerpike

Wow - my respect and appreciation for Sanders just rose significantly!

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/07/bernie-sanders-pro-omar-2020-1212356

Leslie

IMO ---- the way that everybody has piled onto Ms. Omar goes a long way to proving her point. Any criticism of Israel, or its staunch supporters, is verboten. Don't step out of line, girlie.

scrubbedexpat099

We are all products of our culture, and in general we remain so with minor deviations. I do remember somebody from my School Year who became a Roman Catholic Priest, that came out of the blue.

Anyway I assume that people will generally stay within their belief system, and my observation is that most do.

BritInParis

You can criticise the Netanyahu government without repeatedly deploying age old anti-Semitic tropes.

The Left’s utter obsession with Israel to the exclusion of all others is rather telling. We’re told that Israel is committing ‘genocide’ against the Palestinians when their population growth is one of the highest in the world. Meanwhile where there is actual genocide/ethnic cleansing being perpetrated by state actors - Burma, Darfur, Western Sahara to name but a few - there is barely a whimper.

scrubbedexpat099

We could just keep it to the Middle East and ask which States are considered 'better'.

I agree the issue has nothing to do with Israel, well as much as people against Taoism can put it on China.

Leslie

Couldn't agree more. She's almost as clumsy as Kevin McCarthy and Donald Trump when it comes to making insensitive remarks that may telegraph the wrong sentiment. She's not quite as bad as David Duke though but perhaps you disagree.

The left is obsessed with Israel? Good to know. You're very knowledgeable about all of these "left obsessions".

Maybe we need a definition of 'obsessed' or perhaps even a definition of 'left'.

scrubbedexpat099

https://www.theguardian.com/world/israel

Ingles

This is from the "link" you supplied
http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...l-its-citizens
Yes I can see why the "left & liberals" would get utterly p-ssed off over this, but to call it a obsession is his usual BS .
Whereas the "right" would be cheering him on.

Leslie

Was there any particular article that you are directing us toward? Or should we read every single article and try to figure out WTF it is that you're trying to say?

Here, watch me:

There is absolutely nothing anti-Semitic about calling out the noxious role of AIPAC (the American Israel Public Affairs Committee), which spends millions each year to buy U.S. political support for Israeli aggression and militarism against the Palestinian people. As the NYC chapter of Jewish Voice for Peace summed up: “Accurately describing how the Israel lobby works in this country is not anti-Semitic. The never-ending smear campaign against Ilhan Omar is racism and Islamophobia in action.”We Stand with Ilhan

scrubbedexpat099

I was just answering the question and I thought the Graun would be considered left, lots of other media sources I could have used to make the same point. The overt focus on one of the less nasty countries in the area does raise questions.

As has been pointed out in other threads if she had just had a go at Israel it would have been sort of meeh, I would have expected it and would have not been surprised about her lack of comments on the other regimes in the area, however what she did and others have done is very different.

Leslie

Okay, whatever. On to the actual topic of the thread which is the 2020 election. Kirsten Gillibrand has proven (again) what an absolute hypocrite she is with regard to sexual harassment.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...ssment-1214831



Oh, and the New York faction hasn't endorsed her, and she's having trouble raising money. Sad. Not sad.

scrubbedexpat099

To be fair she is not alone, they had Jay Inslee on CNN yesterday and the interviewer asked him if a CiSgender white male should be standing. Not sure if other candidates have been asked similar questions.

Anyway the interesting bit was he went on about his support for the GND etc etc and she mentioned the increase in CO2 emissions in his State since he was elected.

Leslie

I think all of the white male candidates have had that same question asked of them. I don't like it. I don't think that's the right way of looking at things, but I'm not a Democrat so I don't worry about what the "party" is doing. Still, him being asked that question is not equivocal to work place sexual harassment.

scrubbedexpat099

Well I agree not the same, was more about the general Hypocrisy.

I have a feeling that it will be difficult to find a candidate who can survive the blinding light, now some I do not know, but the names I do all seem to have issues.