2020 Election
#76
Re: 2020 Election
i'm also very happy with the insurance I have. I need three prescriptions which I have to take daily. I pay nothing for any of them. For refills I call my pharmacy, they contact my doctor and a day later the pharmacy calls and tells me they're ready. No charge for doctor visits. No charge for hospital stays. or surgery if needed No charge for specialist visits and free membership at any gym which participates in the Silver Sneakers program.
I realize that I'm one of the fortunate individuals and that many younger Californians need a decent health plan but I would hope that any plans by the State to introduce a single payer plan will exempt seniors in my group.
I would also say that I'm better off than any senior my age north of the border
I realize that I'm one of the fortunate individuals and that many younger Californians need a decent health plan but I would hope that any plans by the State to introduce a single payer plan will exempt seniors in my group.
I would also say that I'm better off than any senior my age north of the border
#77
Re: 2020 Election
i'm also very happy with the insurance I have. I need three prescriptions which I have to take daily. I pay nothing for any of them. For refills I call my pharmacy, they contact my doctor and a day later the pharmacy calls and tells me they're ready. No charge for doctor visits. No charge for hospital stays. or surgery if needed No charge for specialist visits and free membership at any gym which participates in the Silver Sneakers program.
I realize that I'm one of the fortunate individuals and that many younger Californians need a decent health plan but I would hope that any plans by the State to introduce a single payer plan will exempt seniors in my group.
I would also say that I'm better off than any senior my age north of the border
I realize that I'm one of the fortunate individuals and that many younger Californians need a decent health plan but I would hope that any plans by the State to introduce a single payer plan will exempt seniors in my group.
I would also say that I'm better off than any senior my age north of the border
'I'm ok, so why should I care about anyone else? They just need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps'
#78
Re: 2020 Election
Just to get this thread back on track :-
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/v...-video-profile
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/v...-video-profile
#79
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Joined: Mar 2004
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Re: 2020 Election
Just to get this thread back on track :-
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/v...-video-profile
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/v...-video-profile
#84
Re: 2020 Election
This man states " No I don't. I think you have to look at it case by case" which is quite normal procedure.
He also talks about comprehensive immigration reform, about the 2 mill young people that should not have to fear deportation & goes on to talk about not demonising desperate men, women and children.
The headline should read: Sensible Approach and Attitude to Immigration Reform.
I would have liked to have heard a question and answer about the USA accepting responsibility for its policies & manipulations that have effected ordinary people of countries other than their own.
#85
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Re: 2020 Election
When California was toying with the idea of single payer, the estimate was $400 billion/yr at the start from the sources I have seen. As far as I know the idea was shelved in the state assembly.
California and Canada have similar populations and Canada in 2017 spent about $240 billion on healthcare. ($240 billion Canadian dollar.) Obviously healthcare costs here rise over time, and that was for 2017, 2013 was $211 billion.
California and Canada have similar populations and Canada in 2017 spent about $240 billion on healthcare. ($240 billion Canadian dollar.) Obviously healthcare costs here rise over time, and that was for 2017, 2013 was $211 billion.
For me, the entire branding of what something like a Medicare for all looks like is what a party should be looking at. How do you make it seem like it isn't Big Government trying to tell you how to live, but in fact a system that provides cheaper care for all but allows Private citizens to make a choice and enough room for companies to make a profit. You'd imagine if you can crack that, you get a lot of the Mid Westerners onside where heavy industry has taken a beating (and no amount of changes in regulation are going to turn back the automation tide). The task is to show them you are making their lives financially better and still leaving the American Dream in place.
#86
Re: 2020 Election
If I've been reading correctly, and not allowed my memory to become too impaired by the odd bottle of wine, the actual benefit of "Social Healthcare" programmes is not the taxation angle, or that a Govt. is somehow better at admin (it most certainly isn't), but that the Drug pricing falls significantly. When you have a near to, or actual, single purchaser of prescribed medicine, the drug companies lose the power they have in the USA system. It has been quite interesting the sheer disdain people have for the concept of the NHS since I have been in Georgia, but equally interesting has been the complete lack of knowledge that you can top up with Private Healthcare if you wish, and many companies even offer it as a benefit to employers. Usually you get someone mentioning how they saw a news programme showing people waiting in the corridors, or spending years on a waiting list for a routine surgery.
For me, the entire branding of what something like a Medicare for all looks like is what a party should be looking at. How do you make it seem like it isn't Big Government trying to tell you how to live, but in fact a system that provides cheaper care for all but allows Private citizens to make a choice and enough room for companies to make a profit. You'd imagine if you can crack that, you get a lot of the Mid Westerners onside where heavy industry has taken a beating (and no amount of changes in regulation are going to turn back the automation tide). The task is to show them you are making their lives financially better and still leaving the American Dream in place.
For me, the entire branding of what something like a Medicare for all looks like is what a party should be looking at. How do you make it seem like it isn't Big Government trying to tell you how to live, but in fact a system that provides cheaper care for all but allows Private citizens to make a choice and enough room for companies to make a profit. You'd imagine if you can crack that, you get a lot of the Mid Westerners onside where heavy industry has taken a beating (and no amount of changes in regulation are going to turn back the automation tide). The task is to show them you are making their lives financially better and still leaving the American Dream in place.
While the ACA has not been a runaway success, it has apparently changed the landscape relative to 10 years ago. It now seems to be political suicide to suggest any system that gives special treatment (read: more expensive) to Pre-Existing conditions. In AZ - a pretty solid 'red' state - the recent Senate victory by Sinema over McSally was fought almost entirely on healthcare, and Sinema prevailed to be the first Democratic Senator to be elected in 28 years. her ads on TV relentlessly bashed McSally for voting against ACA provisions. The next two years should prove interesting in this area.
#87
Re: 2020 Election
If I've been reading correctly, and not allowed my memory to become too impaired by the odd bottle of wine, the actual benefit of "Social Healthcare" programmes is not the taxation angle, or that a Govt. is somehow better at admin (it most certainly isn't), but that the Drug pricing falls significantly. When you have a near to, or actual, single purchaser of prescribed medicine, the drug companies lose the power they have in the USA system. It has been quite interesting the sheer disdain people have for the concept of the NHS since I have been in Georgia, but equally interesting has been the complete lack of knowledge that you can top up with Private Healthcare if you wish, and many companies even offer it as a benefit to employers. Usually you get someone mentioning how they saw a news programme showing people waiting in the corridors, or spending years on a waiting list for a routine surgery.
I would love to see a national healthcare scheme in the US and feel that it can be done so that it is fair to all and without costing citizens an arm and a leg. Medicine should not be a big business. Yes, it can continue to be a business and of course the profit margin will be lower and thus, salaries to the upper management will be lower, but still there would be a profit for the company.
For me, the entire branding of what something like a Medicare for all looks like is what a party should be looking at. How do you make it seem like it isn't Big Government trying to tell you how to live, but in fact a system that provides cheaper care for all but allows Private citizens to make a choice and enough room for companies to make a profit. You'd imagine if you can crack that, you get a lot of the Mid Westerners onside where heavy industry has taken a beating (and no amount of changes in regulation are going to turn back the automation tide). The task is to show them you are making their lives financially better and still leaving the American Dream in place.
The biggest problem with getting national healthcare passed is the lobbyists in Washington who line the pockets and bank accounts of the elected officials that we, Americans, have put in office. They are voted in on platforms of promises and the public is too stupid to realize that that is all it is, a promise. Even the so called fair healthcare plan of ACA only helped certain people while the pockets of our elected officials were filled.
#88
Re: 2020 Election
That's why 'Medicare For All' is a possible slogan for the future; "Universal Healthcare" scares people (the 'big government' fear you mentioned), but many people have a positive attitude towards Medicare because people have parents/grandparents, and parents/grandparents are typically 'on' Medicare and have an overwhelmingly positive view of it.
While the ACA has not been a runaway success, it has apparently changed the landscape relative to 10 years ago. It now seems to be political suicide to suggest any system that gives special treatment (read: more expensive) to Pre-Existing conditions. In AZ - a pretty solid 'red' state - the recent Senate victory by Sinema over McSally was fought almost entirely on healthcare, and Sinema prevailed to be the first Democratic Senator to be elected in 28 years. her ads on TV relentlessly bashed McSally for voting against ACA provisions. The next two years should prove interesting in this area.
While the ACA has not been a runaway success, it has apparently changed the landscape relative to 10 years ago. It now seems to be political suicide to suggest any system that gives special treatment (read: more expensive) to Pre-Existing conditions. In AZ - a pretty solid 'red' state - the recent Senate victory by Sinema over McSally was fought almost entirely on healthcare, and Sinema prevailed to be the first Democratic Senator to be elected in 28 years. her ads on TV relentlessly bashed McSally for voting against ACA provisions. The next two years should prove interesting in this area.
This is actually pretty mind-boggling. Lost the election? No problem, just change the government's structure...
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...oting-midterms
The vested interests apparently do not want their interests threatened.
#89
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Well the way Wisconsin is dealing with it is to try to change the rules of government so that the newly elected governor can't fulfil his promise on the subject.
This is actually pretty mind-boggling. Lost the election? No problem, just change the government's structure...
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...oting-midterms
The vested interests apparently do not want their interests threatened.
This is actually pretty mind-boggling. Lost the election? No problem, just change the government's structure...
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...oting-midterms
The vested interests apparently do not want their interests threatened.
PS I happened to come across this interesting article about Governor Scott Walker and Foxconn ... a $4.1 Billion deal that can only be described as corporate welfare. https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/29/...r-scott-walker
#90
Re: 2020 Election
There's quite a bit of talk in that article of challenges to such actions in court. Do you think the challenges will prevail? It sounds like similar actions were challenged and overturned in 2016.
PS I happened to come across this interesting article about Governor Scott Walker and Foxconn ... a $4.1 Billion deal that can only be described as corporate welfare. https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/29/...r-scott-walker
PS I happened to come across this interesting article about Governor Scott Walker and Foxconn ... a $4.1 Billion deal that can only be described as corporate welfare. https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/29/...r-scott-walker
I honestly don't know, I'm not a jurist. It seems that their voter suppression efforts may well end up challenged in courts, but I really don't know about the changing of the powers of the governor - it looks as though that bit can just be enacted by the State reps.
I'll read the article later - can't right now - but Scott Walker is a nasty piece of work all round.