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Re: 2016 Election
Originally Posted by FlaviusAetius
(Post 11860373)
Definitely not Rubio's best night and we'll see the repetitions in hostile campaign ads, for sure. Chalk it up to unrelenting pressure from a superb prosecuting lawyer. But Christie seemed a nasty bully and probably didn't help himself.
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Re: 2016 Election
Originally Posted by FlaviusAetius
(Post 11860586)
They keep saying he won the debates, but that's just his fan base voting. Still no explanation as to HOW he's going to make America great or HOW he's going to achieve full employment. But his fans don't seem to care. Empty rhetoric reminds eerily of 2008. The lemmings are streaming along. He did look sour for the most part, good observation.
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Re: 2016 Election
Originally Posted by Giantaxe
(Post 11860708)
Yeh, McCain's rhetoric was pretty empty in '08, especially after he selected Palin as his running mate.
Originally Posted by Leslie
(Post 11860520)
Yes to the former, no to the latter. Oh, and Donald Trump is sucking lemons.
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Re: 2016 Election
I see it's starting to reach the desperation point again in the Clinton campaign. It didn't go so well when Bill tried this against Obama. Does he really expect better results this time?
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/08/us...pgtype=article |
Re: 2016 Election
Originally Posted by zargof
(Post 11861310)
I see it's starting to reach the desperation point again in the Clinton campaign. It didn't go so well when Bill tried this against Obama. Does he really expect better results this time?
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/08/us...pgtype=article |
Re: 2016 Election
Originally Posted by Giantaxe
(Post 11861317)
I don't think Bill can help himself when he does stuff like this. If I were in the Clinton campaign, I'd be furious he's gone down this road again.
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Re: 2016 Election
I have seen lots of coverage saying that many feeling the Bern would not vote for Hillary, seems logical.
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Re: 2016 Election
Originally Posted by zargof
(Post 11861310)
I see it's starting to reach the desperation point again in the Clinton campaign. It didn't go so well when Bill tried this against Obama. Does he really expect better results this time?
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/08/us...pgtype=article
Originally Posted by Giantaxe
(Post 11861317)
I don't think Bill can help himself when he does stuff like this. If I were in the Clinton campaign, I'd be furious he's gone down this road again.
Originally Posted by zargof
(Post 11861331)
Yes. Assuming Hillary wins the nomination, she is going to need Bernie's supporters in the general. This, along with Steinem and Albright's attack on women who support Bernie, is not the way to go.
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Re: 2016 Election
Originally Posted by Boiler
(Post 11861451)
I have seen lots of coverage saying that many feeling the Bern would not vote for Hillary, seems logical.
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Re: 2016 Election
Originally Posted by zargof
(Post 11861310)
I see it's starting to reach the desperation point again in the Clinton campaign. It didn't go so well when Bill tried this against Obama. Does he really expect better results this time?
George HW Bush denounced Reagan's economic plan as "voodoo economics" (and he was correct.) That didn't prevent him from becoming Reagan's running mate and two-term VP before becoming president himself. If anything, it's good to maintain the illusion that we have this vigorous process of choosing candidates. It gets Democrats more interested in their party than it would be to have a presumptive nominee ages before the election. In some respects, Bernie Sanders is the best thing that could have happened to Hillary Clinton; it makes the primaries a bit less boring. |
Re: 2016 Election
Originally Posted by RoadWarriorFromLP
(Post 11861734)
None of that matters. It's just part of the game. Politicians talk s**t about each other, then shake hands and move on.
George HW Bush denounced Reagan's economic plan as "voodoo economics" (and he was correct.) That didn't prevent him from becoming Reagan's running mate and two-term VP before becoming president himself. If anything, it's good to maintain the illusion that we have this vigorous process of choosing candidates. It gets Democrats more interested in their party than it would be to have a presumptive nominee ages before the election. In some respects, Bernie Sanders is the best thing that could have happened to Hillary Clinton; it makes the primaries a bit less boring. |
Re: 2016 Election
Nobody expected the Bronco's to win.
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Re: 2016 Election
More noises today from Bloomberg about a potential run as an independent.
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Re: 2016 Election
Originally Posted by sir_eccles
(Post 11861783)
More noises today from Bloomberg about a potential run as an independent.
Former NYC mayor Bloomberg considering US presidential run - National | Globalnews.ca
Originally Posted by zargof
(Post 11861331)
Yes. Assuming Hillary wins the nomination, she is going to need Bernie's supporters in the general. This, along with Steinem and Albright's attack on women who support Bernie, is not the way to go.
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Re: 2016 Election
Originally Posted by sir_eccles
(Post 11861783)
More noises today from Bloomberg about a potential run as an independent.
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