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username.exe Feb 7th 2016 9:33 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by FlaviusAetius (Post 11860373)
Definitely not Rubio's best night and we'll see the repetitions in hostile campaign ads, for sure. Chalk it up to unrelenting pressure from a superb prosecuting lawyer. But Christie seemed a nasty bully and probably didn't help himself.

So Cruz, Christie and Graham were/are all litigators/lawyers, right?

What are their reputations like in professional circles?

Giantaxe Feb 7th 2016 12:42 pm

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by FlaviusAetius (Post 11860586)
They keep saying he won the debates, but that's just his fan base voting. Still no explanation as to HOW he's going to make America great or HOW he's going to achieve full employment. But his fans don't seem to care. Empty rhetoric reminds eerily of 2008. The lemmings are streaming along. He did look sour for the most part, good observation.

Yeh, McCain's rhetoric was pretty empty in '08, especially after he selected Palin as his running mate.

Jerseygirl Feb 7th 2016 1:05 pm

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by Giantaxe (Post 11860708)
Yeh, McCain's rhetoric was pretty empty in '08, especially after he selected Palin as his running mate.

Plain: AKA The Kiss of Death.


Originally Posted by Leslie (Post 11860520)
Yes to the former, no to the latter. Oh, and Donald Trump is sucking lemons.

Out of lemons we make lemonade. Isn't that how it goes??? ;)

zargof Feb 8th 2016 3:44 am

Re: 2016 Election
 
I see it's starting to reach the desperation point again in the Clinton campaign. It didn't go so well when Bill tried this against Obama. Does he really expect better results this time?

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/08/us...pgtype=article

Giantaxe Feb 8th 2016 3:47 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by zargof (Post 11861310)
I see it's starting to reach the desperation point again in the Clinton campaign. It didn't go so well when Bill tried this against Obama. Does he really expect better results this time?

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/08/us...pgtype=article

I don't think Bill can help himself when he does stuff like this. If I were in the Clinton campaign, I'd be furious he's gone down this road again.

zargof Feb 8th 2016 3:59 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by Giantaxe (Post 11861317)
I don't think Bill can help himself when he does stuff like this. If I were in the Clinton campaign, I'd be furious he's gone down this road again.

Yes. Assuming Hillary wins the nomination, she is going to need Bernie's supporters in the general. This, along with Steinem and Albright's attack on women who support Bernie, is not the way to go.

scrubbedexpat099 Feb 8th 2016 6:35 am

Re: 2016 Election
 
I have seen lots of coverage saying that many feeling the Bern would not vote for Hillary, seems logical.

Leslie Feb 8th 2016 11:50 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by zargof (Post 11861310)
I see it's starting to reach the desperation point again in the Clinton campaign. It didn't go so well when Bill tried this against Obama. Does he really expect better results this time?

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/08/us...pgtype=article


Originally Posted by Giantaxe (Post 11861317)
I don't think Bill can help himself when he does stuff like this. If I were in the Clinton campaign, I'd be furious he's gone down this road again.


Originally Posted by zargof (Post 11861331)
Yes. Assuming Hillary wins the nomination, she is going to need Bernie's supporters in the general. This, along with Steinem and Albright's attack on women who support Bernie, is not the way to go.

Yup. It wasn't just Steinem and Albright though, Clinton's surrogates have been out in droves and they've definitely been given their talking points. And, in an attempt to appeal younger female voters --- they've managed to alienate all female voters.

Leslie Feb 8th 2016 11:53 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 11861451)
I have seen lots of coverage saying that many feeling the Bern would not vote for Hillary, seems logical.

Some not all. There is a cohort that vacillates between Sanders and Trump.

RoadWarriorFromLP Feb 8th 2016 12:26 pm

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by zargof (Post 11861310)
I see it's starting to reach the desperation point again in the Clinton campaign. It didn't go so well when Bill tried this against Obama. Does he really expect better results this time?

None of that matters. It's just part of the game. Politicians talk s**t about each other, then shake hands and move on.

George HW Bush denounced Reagan's economic plan as "voodoo economics" (and he was correct.) That didn't prevent him from becoming Reagan's running mate and two-term VP before becoming president himself.

If anything, it's good to maintain the illusion that we have this vigorous process of choosing candidates. It gets Democrats more interested in their party than it would be to have a presumptive nominee ages before the election. In some respects, Bernie Sanders is the best thing that could have happened to Hillary Clinton; it makes the primaries a bit less boring.

Leslie Feb 8th 2016 12:33 pm

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by RoadWarriorFromLP (Post 11861734)
None of that matters. It's just part of the game. Politicians talk s**t about each other, then shake hands and move on.

George HW Bush denounced Reagan's economic plan as "voodoo economics" (and he was correct.) That didn't prevent him from becoming Reagan's running mate and two-term VP before becoming president himself.

If anything, it's good to maintain the illusion that we have this vigorous process of choosing candidates. It gets Democrats more interested in their party than it would be to have a presumptive nominee ages before the election. In some respects, Bernie Sanders is the best thing that could have happened to Hillary Clinton; it makes the primaries a bit less boring.

Agree completely, specially the last paragraph. I was struck, when I saw him on SNL, at how happy I was that we have Bernie. I don't suspect he'll win but he's been interesting and joyous and the country is better for it.

scrubbedexpat099 Feb 8th 2016 1:46 pm

Re: 2016 Election
 
Nobody expected the Bronco's to win.

sir_eccles Feb 8th 2016 1:51 pm

Re: 2016 Election
 
More noises today from Bloomberg about a potential run as an independent.

scrubbedexpat091 Feb 8th 2016 2:11 pm

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by sir_eccles (Post 11861783)
More noises today from Bloomberg about a potential run as an independent.

Apparently he is willing to spend 1 billion on a campaign as well.

Former NYC mayor Bloomberg considering US presidential run - National | Globalnews.ca



Originally Posted by zargof (Post 11861331)
Yes. Assuming Hillary wins the nomination, she is going to need Bernie's supporters in the general. This, along with Steinem and Albright's attack on women who support Bernie, is not the way to go.

I can say Clinton won't get this Sanders supporter's vote... But California seems to be a safe Clinton state, so if she gets the nomination she will likely win the state no issue in the general.

Leslie Feb 8th 2016 2:38 pm

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by sir_eccles (Post 11861783)
More noises today from Bloomberg about a potential run as an independent.

Bloomberg loves to do this. :rolleyes: He needs to shit or get off the pot.


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