Derrygal

Yes - you're right - it really has been a horrible week

morpeth

I think that is the point, you judge people by what you consider a term to mean, whether it is meant in the way you think or not. If I use the term illegals for example I do not consider it a bad phrase just the one commonly used in the discussion, what is now the accepted phrase ? Funny, amongst "illegals" I know, that is not unfrequently the phrase they use themselves. Even if someone were to use the phrase and was racist, does that mean all their opinions are wrong ? Or shouldn't be listened to ?

I must say though I do wonder though if some people who complain about illegal immigration really mean all immigration- as the logic of being against illegal immigration often may apply to legal immigration as well. But it is strange that a nation has laws and people defend not applying the laws it has.

Why on earth would I turn someone in for doing what was best for herself and her children ? I was just pointing out the cost to the state was far higher and any contribution made as a policy issue.

So for discussion what is the PC phrase to use ? And just a question- do I tell "illegals" they should stop using the term amongst themselves ?

kimilseung

I've just spent a little time on the Facebook page "The Deplorables" with half a million members.
Its one bad story after another, with hundreds of supporting replies, the occasional post refuting the original just gets ignored. There is almost zero skepticism. The worst stories all seem to originate from a web page called "Freedom Daily" it is a right wing tea party version of the Sunday Sport.

There is a video of Kurds celebrating Christmas, being presented and believed, as being Arabs destroying a Christmas tree in a US mall. Another has hundreds saying that Assange should be given a pardon (no mention what the pardon is for) some saying, bring him back home to America.

dakota44

Sadly..it was to be expected.

RoadWarriorFromLP

A theme song has already been written for them:

Nutmegger

It is being reported that Giuliani is the top choice for Secretary of State. That is truly horrifying. Please let me awaken from this nightmare.

RoadWarriorFromLP

I was expecting him to select Vladimir Putin, so this doesn't seem so bad in comparison.

MMcD

I read his top choice is John Bolton - which is equally horrific. It's like choosing between bubonic plague or smallpox. Which is the better death?

Despair

scrubbedexpat097

If it was possible it would be one of his sons or his daughter. Keep it in the family

CelticRover

Noam Chomsky predicted the emergence of someone akin to Mr Trump six years ago.

dc koop

I've always loved that beautiful song sung by Whitney Houston "The greatest love of all"

I'll be listening to that song a lot from now on for the next four long years

Wintersong

For some reason I've been drawn to The Pretenders' I'll Stand By You this past week

scrubbedexpat097

I'm more inclined to the Moody Blues, Go Now

yellowroom

I don't think Trump will make it to four years. Not because of any nefarious assassination plots, but because he has never held down a job in his life, and certainly not one for four years that means hard work and being continually held to account. He was in it for the publicity, couldn't give it up when he was in the lead and went for the win. Like a bridezilla that is all about the wedding and not the marriage. I give it 18 months before he finds a reason to resign and we have President Pence.

His body language and demeanour remind me of Boris Johnson the morning after Brexit. "Oh shit, what have I done - whaddya mean I actually have to step up and do this thing now"

Lion in Winter

I suspect we will need this one more.