2016 Election

Old Nov 11th 2016, 4:34 am
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Mr Trump will have his work cut out for himself if he tries to follow through on his unconstitutional promises against various groups. Bring it on Mr Trump!

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Originally Posted by MidAtlantic
Better to read the Constitution where the legal power resides.

Article II, Section 2 of the United States Constitution which states that the President "shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment." The U.S. Supreme Court has interpreted this language to include the power to grant pardons, conditional pardons, commutations of sentence, conditional commutations of sentence, remissions of fines and forfeitures, respites, and amnesties.
thanks - that is interesting and answers your own question very nicely
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Apologies if this Matt Taibbi article from Rolling Stone has been posted before -- I haven't the energy to trawl through all the pages since Tuesday in order to check! I think his thoughts are very accurate -- and especially when he describes Giuliani as unhinged. A sample:

"Shunned during election season by many in his own party, President-elect Trump's closest advisers are a collection of crackpots and dilettantes who will make Bush's cabinet look like the Nobel committee. The head of his EPA transition team, Myron Ebell, is a noted climate-change denier. Pyramid enthusiast and stabbing expert Ben Carson is already being mentioned as a possible Health and Human Services chief. Rudy Giuliani, probably too unhinged by now for even a People's Court reboot, might be attorney general. God only knows who might end up being Supreme Court nominees; we can only hope they turn out to be lawyers, or at least people who played lawyers onscreen. And sitting behind this fun-house nightmare of executive-branch worthies (which Politico speculates will be one of the more "eclectic" cabinets ever) will be a rubber-stamping all-Republican legislature that will attract the loving admiration of tinhorn despots from Minsk to Beijing."

President Trump: How America Got It So Wrong - Rolling Stone
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This is a good step in the right direction for Democrats.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-dnc-chairman/
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Old Nov 11th 2016, 2:39 pm
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Originally Posted by zargof
This is a good step in the right direction for Democrats.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-dnc-chairman/
Agreed. The DNC need to rebuild the party and this is how to do it.

Maybe Bernie has lit the fire under them that they needed.
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Old Nov 11th 2016, 2:56 pm
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Originally Posted by morpeth
And waste everyone's time, just as all these stories about Clinton. I wish the discussion would be about policies and what is best for the country. I am unsure when it will be realized by those who are against Trump people want change. Whether Sanders or Trump, they both represented change. I think except for extreme partisans, people are sick and tired of all this mud-slinging.

I could see Sanders and Trump fighting establishment republicans on infrastructure programs. ( "could" though I doubt it).
Agreed. The last several pages have been a silly discussion about how to somehow reverse the result of the election...carried on by those who will never reconcile themselves to the fact that the people wanted change from the current establishment, which so many felt were leading the country in the wrong direction.
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Old Nov 11th 2016, 3:15 pm
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Originally Posted by FlaviusAetius
the people wanted change from the current establishment, which so many felt were leading the country in the wrong direction.
Well, that would explain why Trump received fewer votes than Mitt Romney (**cough cough**).

I should also remind you that Trump also received fewer votes than Hillary Clinton.

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Originally Posted by RoadWarriorFromLP
Well, that would explain why Trump received fewer votes than Mitt Romney (**cough cough**).
Maybe we can agree on something, I saw the 'people' argument all the time. Both sides do it.

Obviously the majority of the people do not support any candidate and if they have in a UK or US environment I do not recollect when that was.

But I am sure if Hillary had won the people would have spoken.
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Originally Posted by Boiler
Maybe we can agree on something, I saw the 'people' argument all the time. Both sides do it.

Obviously the majority of the people do not support any candidate and if they have in a UK or US environment I do not recollect when that was.

But I am sure if Hillary had won the people would have spoken.
You actually posted words instead of a JPG file. Are you feeling OK?
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You actually posted words instead of a JPG file. Are you feeling OK?
Sorry
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Originally Posted by zargof
This is a good step in the right direction for Democrats.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-dnc-chairman/
I want it to be Al Franken. As a matter of fact, I want Al Franken to do all of the jobs, forever, in the Democratic party.
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Trumps comparatively subduedness since he won is oddly uncomfortable. Got to wonder if someone handed him a packet and said "This will be made public if you don't keep in line with us."
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Originally Posted by Anian
Trumps comparatively subduedness since he won is oddly uncomfortable. Got to wonder if someone handed him a packet and said "This will be made public if you don't keep in line with us."
The fact stocks have gone up suggests that Wall St has got the message that "Don't worry, Trump will on Wall St's side."
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Old Nov 11th 2016, 4:10 pm
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Originally Posted by zargof
The fact stocks have gone up suggests that Wall St has got the message that "Don't worry, Trump will on Wall St's side."
I think it's more to do with the anticipation of higher profits for corporations due to Trump's tax cut plan, increased potential pharmaceutical revenues due to his repeal of the ACA, as well as increased revenues from energy infrastructure construction projects.
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Jamie Dimon for Treasury Secretary. Yeah baby, drain that swamp!

Donald Trump advisors considered JPMorgan's Jamie Dimon for treasury secretary: Sources
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