2016 Election
Re: 2016 Election
If I have to take it somewhere, I might as well go and vote on the actual day. And as others have commented, I enjoyed the atmosphere at the polling place today. Even though it was the busiest I've ever seen it, I still walked right in, filled in my form immediately, and then waited just a few minutes to put it in the machine.
I'm sure people would be up in arms about state rights but the sooner there is Federal oversight of elections so that there is consistent technology, equipment, rules and rights the better. Some of the voter suppression stories I've read today are sickening.
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Re: 2016 Election
I will be astonished if Clinton doesn't win.
As far as NAFTA all these establishment experts are the same ones who often supported NAFTA and other trade policies as being beneficial and we have seen the results. Would being tough with the Chinese and re-negotiating NAFTA be a negative ? I am not sure one could objectively with certainty say yes or no. We do know without change what the trends have been.
As far as NAFTA all these establishment experts are the same ones who often supported NAFTA and other trade policies as being beneficial and we have seen the results. Would being tough with the Chinese and re-negotiating NAFTA be a negative ? I am not sure one could objectively with certainty say yes or no. We do know without change what the trends have been.
Anyway, here are some views on NAFTA-related job losses:
"Sanders said that NAFTA, which Clinton used to support, cost the U.S. economy 800,000 jobs. There is a report from a left-leaning policy group that reached that conclusion. On the other hand, many other nonpartisan reports found that the trade deal produced neither significant job losses nor job gains.
Sanders overshoots on NAFTA job losses | PolitiFact
Last edited by Giantaxe; Nov 8th 2016 at 7:44 pm.
Re: 2016 Election
Not sure if this is just a joke but you never know with some people. If it is true then Trump is going to have a hard time tonight.
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Re: 2016 Election
Not sure if this is just a joke but you never know with some people. If it is true then Trump is going to have a hard time tonight.
https://twitter.com/sidhubaba/status/796086208552194052
https://twitter.com/sidhubaba/status/796086208552194052
Re: 2016 Election
Yes, I appreciated the likely source but it also made me think of all those Trump trolls in Macedonia, they ain't voting either. Another one of Trump's houses of cards.
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As regards to Trumps failed lawsuit over a Nevada polling place that as legally required remained open so those still in line could vote.......they also asked the judge to order that the names of the poll workers be released to them...also shot down. Clearly they only wanted to sic their twitter trolls on them.
They also wanted the voting records of who voted after regularl hours so they could see who the late voters were. What a complete asshole.
They also wanted the voting records of who voted after regularl hours so they could see who the late voters were. What a complete asshole.
Last edited by dakota44; Nov 8th 2016 at 8:49 pm.
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Re: 2016 Election
Ah yes, let's dismiss economist's opinions because they are "establishment experts" rather than explaining why they are wrong.
Anyway, here are some views on NAFTA-related job losses:
"Sanders said that NAFTA, which Clinton used to support, cost the U.S. economy 800,000 jobs. There is a report from a left-leaning policy group that reached that conclusion. On the other hand, many other nonpartisan reports found that the trade deal produced neither significant job losses nor job gains.
Sanders overshoots on NAFTA job losses | PolitiFact
Anyway, here are some views on NAFTA-related job losses:
"Sanders said that NAFTA, which Clinton used to support, cost the U.S. economy 800,000 jobs. There is a report from a left-leaning policy group that reached that conclusion. On the other hand, many other nonpartisan reports found that the trade deal produced neither significant job losses nor job gains.
Sanders overshoots on NAFTA job losses | PolitiFact
Much of the economic theory about NAFTA/free trade may be entirely valid, the difficulty is in the implementation in particular the timing and the effects of such trade agreements on a particular part of the country. Just looking at the number of factories moving to Mexico and the lost income of those who lost their jobs I am not sure if that is included in studies on NAFTA.
Same type of thinking happened in UK with the coal industry. I remember a study saying how beneficial would be for UK to import coal- without calculating costs of social benefits that would result from pits being closed.
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As regards to Trumps failed lawsuit over a Nevada polling place that as legally required remained open so those still in line could vote.......they also asked the judge to order that the names of the poll workers be released to them...also shot down. Clearly they only wanted to sic their twitter trolls on them.
They also wanted the voting records of who voted after regularl hours so they could see who the late voters were. What a complete asshole.
They also wanted the voting records of who voted after regularl hours so they could see who the late voters were. What a complete asshole.
Re: 2016 Election
Plus -I enjoy the communal aspect. Here, in Los Angeles - there's so little we do together, publicly. Most of the time we're hermetically sealed away in our homes or cars.
I also enjoy the ritual.
So Trump has filed a lawsuit in Nevada because a polling place (Hispanic neighborhood..as if I needed to point that out) because the polling place had the audacity to follow Nevada law and remained open to allow those in line at regular closing time to exercise their legal right to vote. The man and his minions have zero shame.
Anyway....cast my ballot this morning. And like everything else related to this wild election....the polling place itself was a first:
For the last umpteen years our local polling location has been at a neighbor's pool house (so la la land)
For this election however, it was switched to the Mercedes Benz of Beverly Hills showroom. .....
"Make Detroit great again "?
Last edited by MMcD; Nov 8th 2016 at 9:40 pm.
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There is far more evidence that China's emergence as an economic power has had a large effect on US jobs and there is no specific trade agreement with them.
Last edited by Giantaxe; Nov 8th 2016 at 9:14 pm.
Re: 2016 Election
Not sure if this is just a joke but you never know with some people. If it is true then Trump is going to have a hard time tonight.
https://twitter.com/sidhubaba/status/796086208552194052
https://twitter.com/sidhubaba/status/796086208552194052
Looks like "sad pepe" might be a meme in the making.
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Trump's Troll Army Is Having a Hard Time Voting
Looks like "sad pepe" might be a meme in the making.
Looks like "sad pepe" might be a meme in the making.
$20 to the poll worker to overlook his failure to register...poll worker took it and then called a cop to eject him.
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Without verifying all the accounts, I currently lean towards trolls trolling the trolls. But it is a welcome bit of levity.
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The last time I stepped into a polling place....I used one of these. Lol Since then all absentee mail ins.