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Old Nov 8th 2016, 5:34 pm
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Originally Posted by Jsmth321
For those who vote in person. Do you go in person because your state doesn't offer mail in ballots or is there some sort of fun in going in person and waiting in line?

Just curious. I've never voted in person as my state has (as long as I have been able to vote anyhow) always offered a mail in option so I have always taken advantage of that, easier and quicker and you don't have to fuss with time off from work.
Originally Posted by Nutmegger
Putting my ballot into the machine myself seems far safer than trusting the US mail and whoever opens the envelopes.
This mainly, though I believe in AZ there is a way of checking online that your vote has been received. Also here in AZ if they don't think your signature matches between mail in ballot and your registration they won't count it until you personally come in to verify. News reports suggest 7000 ballots waiting for verification.

Plus you get a sticker!
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Old Nov 8th 2016, 5:36 pm
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Originally Posted by sir_eccles
Plus you get a sticker!
You should have asked if he'd give you two, so you could wear them both to trigger conservatives.
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Old Nov 8th 2016, 5:37 pm
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You should have asked if he'd give you two, so you could wear them both to trigger conservatives.
I think it was bad enough I wore my union jack shirt.
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Old Nov 8th 2016, 5:39 pm
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I think it was bad enough I wore my union jack shirt.
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Old Nov 8th 2016, 5:46 pm
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My Canadian citizenship application is filled in the event this all goes sideways. My stomache is in knots.
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Old Nov 8th 2016, 5:47 pm
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Originally Posted by dakota44
My Canadian citizenship application is filled in the event this all goes sideways. My stomache is in knots.
Relax. Even if that piece of shit wins, the Democrats can still win the house. Even with a Republican house, it'll be a wonder if the wankstain could pass any actual legislation.
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Originally Posted by morpeth
I think saying Trump supporters are dumb enough to believe what he says misses the point. My impression is that many who are voting for Trump don't necessarily believe what he says but simply cant accept the status quo any more, or simply voting for his attitude.
But he isn't going to change the status quo, you need support from congress to do that and he has few allies among them. Ironically, the status quo right now is a Republican congress, so if they aren't voting Democrat in those elections then they are actually happy with the status quo. Or maybe they have no idea what they are voting for when it comes to policy and ability to get put it into action, and are merely judging based on a few things they have heard and the personality they like best.
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Old Nov 8th 2016, 6:04 pm
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Originally Posted by Jsmth321
For those who vote in person. Do you go in person because your state doesn't offer mail in ballots or is there some sort of fun in going in person and waiting in line?

Just curious. I've never voted in person as my state has (as long as I have been able to vote anyhow) always offered a mail in option so I have always taken advantage of that, easier and quicker and you don't have to fuss with time off from work.
I always vote in person as I enjoy the "buzz' of seeing democracy in action. I actually feel quite emotional about it.
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Old Nov 8th 2016, 6:09 pm
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Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
Relax. Even if that piece of shit wins, the Democrats can still win the house. Even with a Republican house, it'll be a wonder if the wankstain could pass any actual legislation.
No chance for Dems to win the House. Small chance to win the Senate
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Old Nov 8th 2016, 6:11 pm
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I do not think postal votes should be allowed at all, to open to fraud.
In fact they are less open to fraud as we sign the outside envelope and that signature is checked against the signature on record at DMV. The people doing the checking are trained by handwriting expects from the Oregon State Police. If the signature doesn't match you get a letter or phone call requesting you attend the elections office to present ID and confirm it is your ballot.

Now tell me how do they verify in person IDs.
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Old Nov 8th 2016, 6:17 pm
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No chance for Dems to win the House. Small chance to win the Senate
Did I mix up my branches?

Either way, I'd wager over half the GOP think he's a twat anyway, so even then the chances of him actually being able to do anything he says he will is slim to none.

It'd me more his foreign policy we'd need to worry about and to be frank, Canada might not be far enough to get away from the repercussions of any actions there. The Moon might be, Mars would be better though. Good luck ever getting there though if this anti-science ****tard gets in.
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In fact they are less open to fraud as we sign the outside envelope and that signature is checked against the signature on record at DMV. The people doing the checking are trained by handwriting expects from the Oregon State Police. If the signature doesn't match you get a letter or phone call requesting you attend the elections office to present ID and confirm it is your ballot.

Now tell me how do they verify in person IDs.

But there is also the issue of the mail actually arriving. Twice this year every single piece of mail that I put in the box on a specific date didn't arrive until three whole months after they were mailed. Who knows what corner of the PO they'd been moldering away in.
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Originally Posted by Nutmegger
But there is also the issue of the mail actually arriving. Twice this year every single piece of mail that I put in the box on a specific date didn't arrive until three whole months after they were mailed. Who knows what corner of the PO they'd been moldering away in.
Take it to a drop off ballot box. You can go online in Oregon and check that your ballot has been returned, they mark it as received when the signature check is done, mine was received October 26th.
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Originally Posted by Nutmegger
But there is also the issue of the mail actually arriving. Twice this year every single piece of mail that I put in the box on a specific date didn't arrive until three whole months after they were mailed. Who knows what corner of the PO they'd been moldering away in.
Are you hinting that USPS are unreliable? I never ...

Anyway, it was a nice morning, I didn't mind standing in a line for a few minutes. I'd have walked there if I had got up early enough.
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Originally Posted by lansbury
In fact they are less open to fraud as we sign the outside envelope and that signature is checked against the signature on record at DMV. The people doing the checking are trained by handwriting expects from the Oregon State Police. If the signature doesn't match you get a letter or phone call requesting you attend the elections office to present ID and confirm it is your ballot.

Now tell me how do they verify in person IDs.
Basically how California does it.

They email the ballot and signature form to me, each sheet had a bar code which I assume is to ensure the ballot is legit and only used once.

I had to sign the signature sheet which is also an oath and under perjury you swear it's only you who voted, and you only voted once, and are not registered anywhere else, sign that.

That sheet goes into the envelope with the ballot. The back of the mailing envelope had to be signed and dated to ensure it's not been opened before reaching the registrar of voters.

Once they get it, they verify the signature is the same as on file from registering.

If it all matches they send an email saying all is well, and your ballot is valid and will be counted.


I have no idea how it's done in person as I have lived outside the US in all the elections I have been eligible for except the 2000, but for that one I was out of my home area for work training so had to do absentee as well, so I have never had the chance or option to vote in person.

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