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Old Nov 7th 2016, 6:43 pm
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Holy shit, I had to look that reference up - did someone really legit call them Mazel Tov Cocktails? That is ****ing priceless . Right up there with 'self of steam' or 'lack toast intolerant'. "Bone apple tea", everyone.

Also, we're all going to die.
Did you also miss the clip of another surrogate discussing the
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You and me both, mate but will it really ever be over? If Hillary wins, then we'll have to listen to the Trumpeters and their butthurt, not to mention Trump's concession speech is likely to be a joke.
In the event Clinton wins, count me sceptical that Trump will make a concession speech.
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Does feel like BREXIT, but I got that wrong.

I assume Hillary will win, more interested in what will happen with the House.

Will we see court cases and what ever is the 2016 version of hanging chads? Somehow fitting. I assume that whatever happens there will be the equivalent of the Remainers who will not accept the result.
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Did you also miss the clip of another surrogate discussing the Beyonce Red Lobster lyrics?
Yes, I did, but it was by design.

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In the event Clinton wins, count me sceptical that Trump will make a concession speech.
I was using the term rather loosely. He'll make a speech, but it will be a barely intelligible rant about the election being rigged and assorted tin foil hattery.
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North Carolina...voter suppression central. What a disgusting state government they have.

North Carolina GOP Brags Racist Voter Suppression Is Working—And They're Right - The Daily Beast
Day 1 of new presidency - restore and reinforce VRA!!!!

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AKA 'computers' - from Breitbart aka BrightFart
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwrzQQnVEAA2Jh2.jpg
I'm willing to call the FBI incompetent with regards to the leaking of the information but writing a program to sort through emails, work out if the variable "Hillary" is in them, compare to existing database of emails and delete dupes is fairly trivial even for them.
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Day 1 of new presidency - restore and reinforce VRA!!!!



I'm willing to call the FBI incompetent with regards to the leaking of the information but writing a program to sort through emails, work out if the variable "Hillary" is in them, compare to existing database of emails and delete dupes is fairly trivial even for them.
Not unreasonable to believe that Trump knows shit about how computers work.
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Just saw a lovely sign in the village -- someone had put a blackboard out on their lawn, on which they had chalked, "Make America a Joke: Vote Trump."
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Kurt Eichenwald (Newsweek) has been tweeting all day the individual findings he discovered when investigating Trump. A friend compiled the first 48 into one block of text...

Today, as we begin to wrap up this crazy ass, 17 month election season, Kurt has been listing on Twitter everything he's uncovered about Trump over the last couple of decades. I know many of my family & friends are not on twitter, so I wanted to share them with you here:
1.Trump lied to Congress that he was not meeting with any Indian casino executives when documents and sworn statements show he was.
2.Trump testified under oath that he is willing to claim success on something even when he knows his claim is false.
3. Deutsche Bank concluded Trump net worth at $788 million when he was publicly claiming (and told bank) he was worth multiple billions.
4. Trump said under oath that he determines his net worth based on how he feels.
5. While Trump suggests he has an MBA from prestigious Wharton graduate school, only attended undergraduate program for 2 years. Has no MBA.
6. Trump’s first project, given to him by his dad, lost money, according to state records. Trump has publicly lied that it made money.
7. Trump’s second project was a Broadway show. It bombed, closing after 96 performances. He lost his investment.
8. Trump’s claim that his dad gave him only $1m is a lie. His trust fund was $1 mill. Dad gave $10.4m for a bogus consultant job, guaranteed $70 m loan, got him $35m credit line, laundered $3.35mill 2 Don in illegal casino deal, loaned $7.5m more (never repaid.) (Tweets 8 & 9)
10. As Trump claimed great success, tax returns showed not. In ‘78 lost $1.5M. In ‘79, lost $11.4m. No bankruptcy cause dad gave him more $.
11. When Trump built Taj Mahal, testified under oath to NJ he'd only use bank loans, not junk bonds. No bank would lend. Used junk bonds.
12. Trump’s 3 casinos all competed with each other, which is why no banks loans. Taj took business from his other 2 casinos, crippling all.
13. Trump spent huge sums on airline, promising top elegance. People w/ airline experience said it couldnt work. It never turned a profit.
14. After Trump’s top casino execs died in accident, Trump took over running them. Large numbers of execs quit because of his management.
15. When Trump about to default on interest payment for casino, his dad/he broke law by having dad launder $3.35 mill through casino. Dad gave Trump another $150,000 loan next day, unreported to banks, in violation of bank agreement rules breaking in financing (money laundering from dad etc) resulted in sanctions against him from NJ casino commission. (Tweets 15-17)
18.Trump banks were forced to make deal with him after bankruptcy of casinos because he personally guaranteed loans. If they went after personal guarantee, entire Trump empire would collapse and banks would lose billions. Banks loaned him tons more to save him.
19. Trump was $3.5 bill in debt. Later, when banks bailed him out, he claimed in books he was $9.5bill in debt to make recovery look better.
21. Trump admitted under oath that, when he claimed he was $9.5 bill in debt in his books, it was a lie and he knew it.
22. No banks will lend to Trump except Deutsche Bank. In 2008, he defaulted on a $640 mill construction loan to them.
23. List of Trump failures: TrumpMortgage, TrumpFinancial, Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts, Trump Shuttle, GoTrump website, Trump Vodka, Trump Steaks, Trump Taj, Trump Castle, Trump Plaza, Trump Dubai, Trump University, Trump Toronto, Trump Hollywood...I could go on many more tweets listing Trump's business failures. It'd be easier to list the Trump businesses that haven't failed. (Tweets 23-25)
26. In Trump University, Trump claimed to “personally select” teachers who would teach real estate secrets. He did not, they did not.
26. Unable to get bank loans because of his terrible record as a businessman, Trump began selling his name 4 use on other ppl’s projects.
27. Trump marketed projects of other developers as his own. Only those who read dense legal agreement’s fine print learned it was a lie.
28. Trump sold his name 2 incompetent developers whose projects collapsed, costing people who paid deposits millions while he made millions.
29. When condo buyers sued Trump for falsely claiming projects of other developers were his, he said they should have read the fine print.
30. Trump testified he did a favor to the condo buyers who lost millions by trusting him, because they avoided the real estate collapse.
31. In 1990, one of Trump’s lieutenants told me ““The thing you don’t understand about Donald Trump is that he’s mentally ill.”
32. I wrote about Trump 4 New York Times. First time we spoke, he lied to me in his first sentence. He told three more lies in 5 min call.
33. Trump lied that to WashPost in '87 that he knew stock market crash was coming and sold all his stocks. SEC filings prove it.
34. To escape liability for fraud, Trump argued that a “development by Donald Trump” is different than “a Donald Trump development.”
35. Trump wrote “Bill Clinton was great president,” denied it under oath then said wrote it be4 knowing of Lewinsky scandal of 10 yrs before.
36. In 2008, Trump wrote, “I know Hillary, and I think she would make a great president." Testified in 2016 he wrote it without thinking.
37. Asked under oath identities of professors at Trump U (there were none) Trump said “I know names, but I don't know the identities.”
38. After saying under oath he knew the names of professors at Trump U (none existed) Trump could not name any.
39. When sued for saying other developers buildings were his, Trump said truth wasn’t in ads because there wasn’t enough room 4 the words.
40. Trump claimed to own 50% of a project when he owned 30%. His explanation under oath: “I always felt like I owned 50%.”
41. Trump said he was paid $1m for speech when paid $400,000. Under oath, he agreed he was paid 400, but said $1mill was still correct.
42. Trump has never released a real medical report. His father had Alzheimers, which is genetic and could hit at about Trump’s age.
43. In 2007, Trump said his favorite book was his own, The Art of the Deal. Once he started running 4 president, he said it was the Bible.
44. When asked to give his favorite words from the Bible, Trump cited an Old Testament phrase that was the only one repudiated by Jesus.
45. When testifying under oath, Trump refused to answer questions 97 times about infidelities and suspected mistresses.
46. Trump has called for US military to commit 3 different war crimes. When told military would refuse, he said theyd do what he commanded.
47. Trump has directly insulted leaders of four allied countries, while offering effusive praise to Vladimir Putin.
48. Trump has refused to release the letter sent by the IRS to prove he is under audit, despite dozens of requests from many reporters.
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Kurt Eichenwald (Newsweek) has been tweeting all day the individual findings he discovered when investigating Trump. A friend compiled the first 48 into one block of text...

Today, as we begin to wrap up this crazy ass, 17 month election season, Kurt has been listing on Twitter everything he's uncovered about Trump over the last couple of decades. I know many of my family & friends are not on twitter, so I wanted to share them with you here:
1.Trump lied to Congress that he was not meeting with any Indian casino executives when documents and sworn statements show he was.
2.Trump testified under oath that he is willing to claim success on something even when he knows his claim is false.
3. Deutsche Bank concluded Trump net worth at $788 million when he was publicly claiming (and told bank) he was worth multiple billions.
4. Trump said under oath that he determines his net worth based on how he feels.
5. While Trump suggests he has an MBA from prestigious Wharton graduate school, only attended undergraduate program for 2 years. Has no MBA.
6. Trump’s first project, given to him by his dad, lost money, according to state records. Trump has publicly lied that it made money.
7. Trump’s second project was a Broadway show. It bombed, closing after 96 performances. He lost his investment.
8. Trump’s claim that his dad gave him only $1m is a lie. His trust fund was $1 mill. Dad gave $10.4m for a bogus consultant job, guaranteed $70 m loan, got him $35m credit line, laundered $3.35mill 2 Don in illegal casino deal, loaned $7.5m more (never repaid.) (Tweets 8 & 9)
10. As Trump claimed great success, tax returns showed not. In ‘78 lost $1.5M. In ‘79, lost $11.4m. No bankruptcy cause dad gave him more $.
11. When Trump built Taj Mahal, testified under oath to NJ he'd only use bank loans, not junk bonds. No bank would lend. Used junk bonds.
12. Trump’s 3 casinos all competed with each other, which is why no banks loans. Taj took business from his other 2 casinos, crippling all.
13. Trump spent huge sums on airline, promising top elegance. People w/ airline experience said it couldnt work. It never turned a profit.
14. After Trump’s top casino execs died in accident, Trump took over running them. Large numbers of execs quit because of his management.
15. When Trump about to default on interest payment for casino, his dad/he broke law by having dad launder $3.35 mill through casino. Dad gave Trump another $150,000 loan next day, unreported to banks, in violation of bank agreement rules breaking in financing (money laundering from dad etc) resulted in sanctions against him from NJ casino commission. (Tweets 15-17)
18.Trump banks were forced to make deal with him after bankruptcy of casinos because he personally guaranteed loans. If they went after personal guarantee, entire Trump empire would collapse and banks would lose billions. Banks loaned him tons more to save him.
19. Trump was $3.5 bill in debt. Later, when banks bailed him out, he claimed in books he was $9.5bill in debt to make recovery look better.
21. Trump admitted under oath that, when he claimed he was $9.5 bill in debt in his books, it was a lie and he knew it.
22. No banks will lend to Trump except Deutsche Bank. In 2008, he defaulted on a $640 mill construction loan to them.
23. List of Trump failures: TrumpMortgage, TrumpFinancial, Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts, Trump Shuttle, GoTrump website, Trump Vodka, Trump Steaks, Trump Taj, Trump Castle, Trump Plaza, Trump Dubai, Trump University, Trump Toronto, Trump Hollywood...I could go on many more tweets listing Trump's business failures. It'd be easier to list the Trump businesses that haven't failed. (Tweets 23-25)
26. In Trump University, Trump claimed to “personally select” teachers who would teach real estate secrets. He did not, they did not.
26. Unable to get bank loans because of his terrible record as a businessman, Trump began selling his name 4 use on other ppl’s projects.
27. Trump marketed projects of other developers as his own. Only those who read dense legal agreement’s fine print learned it was a lie.
28. Trump sold his name 2 incompetent developers whose projects collapsed, costing people who paid deposits millions while he made millions.
29. When condo buyers sued Trump for falsely claiming projects of other developers were his, he said they should have read the fine print.
30. Trump testified he did a favor to the condo buyers who lost millions by trusting him, because they avoided the real estate collapse.
31. In 1990, one of Trump’s lieutenants told me ““The thing you don’t understand about Donald Trump is that he’s mentally ill.”
32. I wrote about Trump 4 New York Times. First time we spoke, he lied to me in his first sentence. He told three more lies in 5 min call.
33. Trump lied that to WashPost in '87 that he knew stock market crash was coming and sold all his stocks. SEC filings prove it.
34. To escape liability for fraud, Trump argued that a “development by Donald Trump” is different than “a Donald Trump development.”
35. Trump wrote “Bill Clinton was great president,” denied it under oath then said wrote it be4 knowing of Lewinsky scandal of 10 yrs before.
36. In 2008, Trump wrote, “I know Hillary, and I think she would make a great president." Testified in 2016 he wrote it without thinking.
37. Asked under oath identities of professors at Trump U (there were none) Trump said “I know names, but I don't know the identities.”
38. After saying under oath he knew the names of professors at Trump U (none existed) Trump could not name any.
39. When sued for saying other developers buildings were his, Trump said truth wasn’t in ads because there wasn’t enough room 4 the words.
40. Trump claimed to own 50% of a project when he owned 30%. His explanation under oath: “I always felt like I owned 50%.”
41. Trump said he was paid $1m for speech when paid $400,000. Under oath, he agreed he was paid 400, but said $1mill was still correct.
42. Trump has never released a real medical report. His father had Alzheimers, which is genetic and could hit at about Trump’s age.
43. In 2007, Trump said his favorite book was his own, The Art of the Deal. Once he started running 4 president, he said it was the Bible.
44. When asked to give his favorite words from the Bible, Trump cited an Old Testament phrase that was the only one repudiated by Jesus.
45. When testifying under oath, Trump refused to answer questions 97 times about infidelities and suspected mistresses.
46. Trump has called for US military to commit 3 different war crimes. When told military would refuse, he said theyd do what he commanded.
47. Trump has directly insulted leaders of four allied countries, while offering effusive praise to Vladimir Putin.
48. Trump has refused to release the letter sent by the IRS to prove he is under audit, despite dozens of requests from many reporters.
Yeah, but I just don't trust Hillary...
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Yeah, but I just don't trust Hillary...
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This Guy Just Voted From Outer Space So Don't Say You're Too Busy

Apparently it is easier to vote from space than it is in a black neighborhood.
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This Guy Just Voted From Outer Space So Don't Say You're Too Busy

Apparently it is easier to vote from space than it is in a black neighborhood.
Not much of a line.
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In a fair and just world Trump would lose in an electoral landslide..throwing the Republican party into a full fledged internal war. He would the lose the lawsuits against Trump U. and be forced to pay many millions...his charity would be found guilty of fraudulent use of donations and shut down ...the IRS would hit him with tax fraud...illegal activites involving dealings with Russia would be uncovered...more sexual assault cases will come forward within the statute of limitations for prosecution...all of his businesses will continue losing money until he is finally truly bankrupt and then...he ends up in a padded cell in a mental institution..where he belongs. I had better start praying.
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In a fair and just world Trump would lose in an electoral landslide..throwing the Republican party into a full fledged internal war. He would the lose the lawsuits against Trump U. and be forced to pay many millions...his charity would be found guilty of fraudulent use of donations and shut down ...the IRS would hit him with tax fraud...illegal activites involving dealings with Russia would be uncovered...more sexual assault cases will come forward within the statute of limitations for prosecution...all of his businesses will continue losing money until he is finally truly bankrupt and then...he ends up in a padded cell in a mental institution..where he belongs. I had better start praying.
If the GOP had been able to field say Kaisich wonder where we would be?
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