2016 Election
Mar 24th 2016, 1:07 am
#6392
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Re: 2016 Election
Okay, so I've been meaning to respond properly but I've been posting from my phone and I get tired after more than a sentence.
What in the actual **** happened over there last night? I'm getting caught up and this whole thing stinks to high heaven. Now the DOJ is being beckoned. What's the scuttle butt on the ground?
What in the actual **** happened over there last night? I'm getting caught up and this whole thing stinks to high heaven. Now the DOJ is being beckoned. What's the scuttle butt on the ground?
Mar 24th 2016, 3:22 am
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Re: 2016 Election
The mayor of phx has called on the feds to investigate. Notably AZ was a state sanctioned under the VRA that previously had to ask permission to make changes to voting. Since SCOTUS gutted that law a couple of years ago, they can make changes at will. There is also a Whitehouse petition to investigate.
The election is NOT party run. It is run by the Secretary of state and the individual county recorders who are all elected Republicans. The Maricopa county recorder has run unopposed for about 7 terms. Someone has announced he will run.
Mar 24th 2016, 3:33 am
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Re: 2016 Election
The U.S. ranks 47th in the world in the way it runs elections. Surprised it is that high.
Mar 24th 2016, 3:34 am
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Re: 2016 Election
Pretty much. So they cut polling places from 200 to 60 and suspiciously had even fewer in highly Hispanic areas. Lifelong Democrats being told they were registered independent. While they filled in provisional ballots they will not be counted. Various other violations. ID checks not working. Fire alarms going off disrupting voting.
The mayor of phx has called on the feds to investigate. Notably AZ was a state sanctioned under the VRA that previously had to ask permission to make changes to voting. Since SCOTUS gutted that law a couple of years ago, they can make changes at will. There is also a Whitehouse petition to investigate.
The election is NOT party run. It is run by the Secretary of state and the individual county recorders who are all elected Republicans. The Maricopa county recorder has run unopposed for about 7 terms. Someone has announced he will run.
The mayor of phx has called on the feds to investigate. Notably AZ was a state sanctioned under the VRA that previously had to ask permission to make changes to voting. Since SCOTUS gutted that law a couple of years ago, they can make changes at will. There is also a Whitehouse petition to investigate.
The election is NOT party run. It is run by the Secretary of state and the individual county recorders who are all elected Republicans. The Maricopa county recorder has run unopposed for about 7 terms. Someone has announced he will run.
Mar 24th 2016, 3:34 am
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Mar 24th 2016, 4:04 am
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Mar 24th 2016, 4:04 am
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Mar 24th 2016, 5:48 am
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Re: 2016 Election
Didn't expect an intelligible reply but it's fascinating how types like you don't really know what they want from the general election, except the idea of free stuff for everyone, a monumental increase in the size of the federal government to implement it, to continue to deny there's even an illegal immigration problem as to do so is bigoted and racist, and no change whatsoever in current US foreign policy in the hope what happened in Paris or Brussels, doesn't happen here
Do you for example really believe that Trump is going to deport eleven million illegals ?
Do you really believe that he's going to build a big wall and get Mexico to pay for it ?
Do you really believe that after abolishing the Affordable Care Act he's going to replace it with something better ?
Do you really believe that he's going to do a number on China and get all the jobs that went there back here again?
Trump might think he's going to Washington and rule it like some latter day Mussolini but if ever he did get there god help us he'll find that there's a thing called the Constitution and that the people he will have to deal with are nothing like his sheeple Trump Co employees.
BTW I've lived here over 4 decades. I never asked for any handouts. What I have today I earned myself and with my wife's help.
Living in California all these years I've come to know a lot about Mexicans.
They're not all criminals and rapists as Der Fuhrer Donald claims and in some instances if I were an employer I'd sooner hire a Mexican rather than some lazy home grown specimen either white or black who wants 25 dollars an hour for a half assed days work
As for "small government" if that's what the GOP really want then I don't see that the 8 grand I paid in taxes for last year is really needed in Washington. I think about one quarter of that would be suitable instead
Last edited by dc koop; Mar 24th 2016 at 6:03 am.
Mar 24th 2016, 1:24 pm
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Re: 2016 Election
OK, there's another difference. ISIS come out and kill people directly. The American right want to do it indirectly by denying people basic rights like healthcare, housing, food, that kind of thing. The likes of the tea party are essentially domestic terrorists, just a bit more subtle.
They both hide behind the same god, with a different name. Just because the American right hides behind the same one your parents/granparents/whoever happened to believe in doesn't make what they do right.
This trope needs to stop now, it's one of the single most stupid things that right wingers can come up with to justify their ingrained fear of egalitarianism.
Everyone gets to use roads, not just those who pay taxes. The armed forces aren't just protecting the taxpayer. That's part of living in a society - taking care of those who don't have until such times as they are able to pay back into the system for the time we might need to use it.
Mar 24th 2016, 2:38 pm
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Re: 2016 Election
This trope needs to stop now, it's one of the single most stupid things that right wingers can come up with to justify their ingrained fear of egalitarianism.
Everyone gets to use roads, not just those who pay taxes. The armed forces aren't just protecting the taxpayer. That's part of living in a society - taking care of those who don't have until such times as they are able to pay back into the system for the time we might need to use it.
Everyone gets to use roads, not just those who pay taxes. The armed forces aren't just protecting the taxpayer. That's part of living in a society - taking care of those who don't have until such times as they are able to pay back into the system for the time we might need to use it.
Mar 24th 2016, 2:39 pm
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Mar 24th 2016, 3:01 pm
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Re: 2016 Election
If he's asked who his National Security Advisor is going to be, will Trump say Jack Bauer?
Mar 24th 2016, 3:26 pm
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Re: 2016 Election
Touch a nerve, did I?
OK, there's another difference. ISIS come out and kill people directly. The American right want to do it indirectly by denying people basic rights like healthcare, housing, food, that kind of thing. The likes of the tea party are essentially domestic terrorists, just a bit more subtle.
They both hide behind the same god, with a different name. Just because the American right hides behind the same one your parents/granparents/whoever happened to believe in doesn't make what they do right.
This trope needs to stop now, it's one of the single most stupid things that right wingers can come up with to justify their ingrained fear of egalitarianism.
Everyone gets to use roads, not just those who pay taxes. The armed forces aren't just protecting the taxpayer. That's part of living in a society - taking care of those who don't have until such times as they are able to pay back into the system for the time we might need to use it.
OK, there's another difference. ISIS come out and kill people directly. The American right want to do it indirectly by denying people basic rights like healthcare, housing, food, that kind of thing. The likes of the tea party are essentially domestic terrorists, just a bit more subtle.
They both hide behind the same god, with a different name. Just because the American right hides behind the same one your parents/granparents/whoever happened to believe in doesn't make what they do right.
This trope needs to stop now, it's one of the single most stupid things that right wingers can come up with to justify their ingrained fear of egalitarianism.
Everyone gets to use roads, not just those who pay taxes. The armed forces aren't just protecting the taxpayer. That's part of living in a society - taking care of those who don't have until such times as they are able to pay back into the system for the time we might need to use it.
We pay towards these all our working lives