“Just say no to government run.............
#215
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They exist, they just know who butters their toast. Mine is sat on the sofa watching Skye sports right now after taking me out to a nice meal and beer at our local. After I let him have his fill of telly, he will proceed to make me a very happy American lady and I will forget about all the nasty English blokes on this board that try to give British men a bad name.
Reg. Frank R.
#216
Lost in BE Cyberspace
Joined: Jan 2008
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Nobody got my Scottish joke.
#221
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and there are those whose only reason for posting on BE is to stir the pot.
Last edited by Jerseygirl; Jul 21st 2009 at 3:57 am.
#223
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It's very interesting don't you think that there are so many American women posting who's British husbands don't, but no American husbands of British women (that I can think of)??? It's all very puzzling.
#224
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Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 526
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annnnnnnnd back to the point (although enjoyed the meander)
British verses American health care! I thought a lot of good points where raised, the cost to doctors of there diagnostic equipment and the need to pay for it, education and the need to pay for it? I can understand young doctors disparately trying to pay back student loans may be Obama needs to look at reparation (for lack of a better word) for all doctors who qualified in the last 7 years, on a sliding scale and the same for medical students. I like Ozzdoc and her pay forward idea, which is exactly what the NHS does, and why I didn't leave it, I was grateful for my training being paid for. (we where told at the time 1990 it cost £25,000 to train us, I am unsure if that included my wages above my training cost which where £5,300ish in my first year and $9000ish in my 3rd year, and the quote we got was first year, but I alway remembered that and gave 18 years service to the NHS without a break apart from ! Mat leave after 14 years)and I would still be there if it wasn't for hubbys job. (the ish is because those where my basic wages, I got unsocial pay on top, but students where alot cheaper to employ than HCA's (auxillaries as they where known then) and we could do more)
I live in an area with acute nursing shortages, to get qualified here I think $600ish , wages on starting $48,000,(lots less than I got in the UK ICU Qualified) 1 weeks holiday after a year, no sick leave or other benefits in the first year and woefully inadequete I feel following that, and remember ??? thyrid or something? he had a picture of the welsh guy in "it an't have hot mum" who's wife was a nurse got ill and got sacked!
Also i have spoken to nurses here and said about the lack of holiday (which sound petty but ICU is a place of burn out even in the Uk just like ER, and oncology, not easy jobs when expecting a large number of deaths.
The advice I was given by nurses here, when they are getting tired or close to burn out, Oh I just leave!
so no continuity of care, high turn over, new nurse in units! recipe for disaster! in the UK you either move for promotion, experience or because of partners job and rarely leave due to children, ill health, needing a holiday ect, so the expertise stays, my few encounter in the US Private health have left me less than impressed, except for 1 doctor!.
and he was a star
British verses American health care! I thought a lot of good points where raised, the cost to doctors of there diagnostic equipment and the need to pay for it, education and the need to pay for it? I can understand young doctors disparately trying to pay back student loans may be Obama needs to look at reparation (for lack of a better word) for all doctors who qualified in the last 7 years, on a sliding scale and the same for medical students. I like Ozzdoc and her pay forward idea, which is exactly what the NHS does, and why I didn't leave it, I was grateful for my training being paid for. (we where told at the time 1990 it cost £25,000 to train us, I am unsure if that included my wages above my training cost which where £5,300ish in my first year and $9000ish in my 3rd year, and the quote we got was first year, but I alway remembered that and gave 18 years service to the NHS without a break apart from ! Mat leave after 14 years)and I would still be there if it wasn't for hubbys job. (the ish is because those where my basic wages, I got unsocial pay on top, but students where alot cheaper to employ than HCA's (auxillaries as they where known then) and we could do more)
I live in an area with acute nursing shortages, to get qualified here I think $600ish , wages on starting $48,000,(lots less than I got in the UK ICU Qualified) 1 weeks holiday after a year, no sick leave or other benefits in the first year and woefully inadequete I feel following that, and remember ??? thyrid or something? he had a picture of the welsh guy in "it an't have hot mum" who's wife was a nurse got ill and got sacked!
Also i have spoken to nurses here and said about the lack of holiday (which sound petty but ICU is a place of burn out even in the Uk just like ER, and oncology, not easy jobs when expecting a large number of deaths.
The advice I was given by nurses here, when they are getting tired or close to burn out, Oh I just leave!
so no continuity of care, high turn over, new nurse in units! recipe for disaster! in the UK you either move for promotion, experience or because of partners job and rarely leave due to children, ill health, needing a holiday ect, so the expertise stays, my few encounter in the US Private health have left me less than impressed, except for 1 doctor!.
and he was a star
#225
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Thinking of our friends who have mixed US/UK marriages, all eight couples are UK man/US woman. It can't be accidental...