Death In Thailand
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Death In Thailand
Hi
I was wondering if any one can help. My dad passed away in Thailand on Thursday and currently we are unable to get over to Thailand, due to the red list and the costs involved.
My father is awaiting a autopsy and once this is done we can release his body. He did have a partner however they were not married.
He had a business and a house which I know was in her name and she will be getting this, but this is not what I am worried about.
I have been told once the autopsy has been carried out if I sign his body over to her for cremation she then has the death certificate and I am unable to obtain one. With his being a british national I need the death certificate to be able to stop his pension here in the uk and close his bank account down and I would like to register his death in the uk.
I know my dad wanted to be cremated in Thailand and as a family we are willing to let this happen, however this has been a massive shock and trying to deal with the embassy has been horrendous.
I dont know who to trust and I dont know what I need to do. I have been told even though he had a partner I am next of kin but for me it seems I am only next of kin when it comes to the hospital costs and all the other costs but I have no right to have his death certificate.
I was wondering if anyone can help or point me in the right direction.
My father is currently in Bangkok hospital Pattaya but I know know more than that.
I was wondering if any one can help. My dad passed away in Thailand on Thursday and currently we are unable to get over to Thailand, due to the red list and the costs involved.
My father is awaiting a autopsy and once this is done we can release his body. He did have a partner however they were not married.
He had a business and a house which I know was in her name and she will be getting this, but this is not what I am worried about.
I have been told once the autopsy has been carried out if I sign his body over to her for cremation she then has the death certificate and I am unable to obtain one. With his being a british national I need the death certificate to be able to stop his pension here in the uk and close his bank account down and I would like to register his death in the uk.
I know my dad wanted to be cremated in Thailand and as a family we are willing to let this happen, however this has been a massive shock and trying to deal with the embassy has been horrendous.
I dont know who to trust and I dont know what I need to do. I have been told even though he had a partner I am next of kin but for me it seems I am only next of kin when it comes to the hospital costs and all the other costs but I have no right to have his death certificate.
I was wondering if anyone can help or point me in the right direction.
My father is currently in Bangkok hospital Pattaya but I know know more than that.
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Re: Death In Thailand
Hi Emma. I'm very sorry to hear about your Dad, my sincere sympathies.
Hopefully there will be someone living in Thailand along soon to help answer your questions. In the meantime, have you looked at the following information?
I know you've said you've had contact with the British embassy, but in case you haven't seen it this is the UK government's advice on what to do when a British person dies in Thailand https://www.gov.uk/guidance/what-to-...es-in-thailand
As well as the British embassy in Bangkok, I also found details for the British Honorary Consulate in Pattaya. There is an email address for the Honorary Consul in this link https://www.embassypages.com/unitedk...ttaya-thailand
I'm sorry you're having to deal with all this, losing your dad is hard enough on its own.
Hopefully there will be someone living in Thailand along soon to help answer your questions. In the meantime, have you looked at the following information?
I know you've said you've had contact with the British embassy, but in case you haven't seen it this is the UK government's advice on what to do when a British person dies in Thailand https://www.gov.uk/guidance/what-to-...es-in-thailand
As well as the British embassy in Bangkok, I also found details for the British Honorary Consulate in Pattaya. There is an email address for the Honorary Consul in this link https://www.embassypages.com/unitedk...ttaya-thailand
I'm sorry you're having to deal with all this, losing your dad is hard enough on its own.
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Re: Death In Thailand
Hi
Thank you so much for that, I have seen the Gov.uk one and been through it, But it is the releasing of his body over to his girlfriend in Thailand which automatically gives her the death Certificate.
It has been absolutely awful due to not being able to get out. not knowing what is happening. Even though he is classed as a british national I feel I have no rights. I cant confirm whether he was insured apparently he wasn't but I have no way of knowing if he had as I can not go through any of his paper work.
The only thing I cant get my help around is, according to the embassy i am his next of kin so I have to pay all costs involved regarding hospital which of course I will, but if i sign his body over i cant have a say in anything or have a death certificate and his meant to also be classed as a british national.
It is very difficult we haven't had time to grieve but we are having to deal with all of this. I have only had one conversation with his girlfriend and that didn't go down very well i just had her screaming at me telling me to sign his body over which I certainly cant any as he is waiting on autopsy. And then she sent me photos of my father dead and videos of the crew working on him on the path.
Thank you so much for that, I have seen the Gov.uk one and been through it, But it is the releasing of his body over to his girlfriend in Thailand which automatically gives her the death Certificate.
It has been absolutely awful due to not being able to get out. not knowing what is happening. Even though he is classed as a british national I feel I have no rights. I cant confirm whether he was insured apparently he wasn't but I have no way of knowing if he had as I can not go through any of his paper work.
The only thing I cant get my help around is, according to the embassy i am his next of kin so I have to pay all costs involved regarding hospital which of course I will, but if i sign his body over i cant have a say in anything or have a death certificate and his meant to also be classed as a british national.
It is very difficult we haven't had time to grieve but we are having to deal with all of this. I have only had one conversation with his girlfriend and that didn't go down very well i just had her screaming at me telling me to sign his body over which I certainly cant any as he is waiting on autopsy. And then she sent me photos of my father dead and videos of the crew working on him on the path.
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Re: Death In Thailand
Who told you that signing over the body for cremation after autopsy involves her getting the Death Certificate? The hospital? The embassy? The Partner? Can you not insist that you get a copy of the Death Certificate as well. Get here to sign an affidavit to that effect with a lawyer? Did he have a personal lawyer? There may also be a Will that establishes the dispensation of property and assets beyond those that were in her name.
In any case, I'm doubtful that the British Government would continue to send benefits to his account if they have evidence at all of his death. Surely the Hon. British Counsel would know if a British Citizen had died there and have documents to that effect that would be sufficient to suspend or terminate the benefits.There is a document I receive periodically called that establishes proof of life that requires me to establish my physical existence at a lawyer/solicitor and the notarised document is then sent to my Pension agency.
In any case, I'm doubtful that the British Government would continue to send benefits to his account if they have evidence at all of his death. Surely the Hon. British Counsel would know if a British Citizen had died there and have documents to that effect that would be sufficient to suspend or terminate the benefits.There is a document I receive periodically called that establishes proof of life that requires me to establish my physical existence at a lawyer/solicitor and the notarised document is then sent to my Pension agency.
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Re: Death In Thailand
Has anyone any experience of getting a death certificate in Thailand for a UK national?
Reading the info, the death must be registered within 24 hours, the certificate will be in Thai and needs to be translated into English, the English version needs verification to be accepted in the UK - it is recommended to get several copies made. You can inform the UK banks and authorities but they will need to the death certificate. The Foreign Office isn't much help, they may send you info that is fairly freely available.
If there are family members or partners in Thailand who are hostile, the issues become much worse.
Reading the info, the death must be registered within 24 hours, the certificate will be in Thai and needs to be translated into English, the English version needs verification to be accepted in the UK - it is recommended to get several copies made. You can inform the UK banks and authorities but they will need to the death certificate. The Foreign Office isn't much help, they may send you info that is fairly freely available.
If there are family members or partners in Thailand who are hostile, the issues become much worse.
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Re: Death In Thailand
Have you worked through this list yet?
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/what-to-...es-in-thailand
It also tells you how to contact the UK consular services in Thailand, and how to apply for a Consular Death Registration certificate, which is the equivalent of a UK death certificate for someone who died overseas.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/what-to-...es-in-thailand
It also tells you how to contact the UK consular services in Thailand, and how to apply for a Consular Death Registration certificate, which is the equivalent of a UK death certificate for someone who died overseas.