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nbn8 Jan 7th 2009 11:03 pm

Teaching in Oz
 
Hi

How are teaching jobs normally offered in Australia? Could somebody please point me into the direction which I need to be going any websites etc gratefully received. thanks Nicky

quoll Jan 9th 2009 8:48 am

Re: Teaching in Oz
 
Usually advertised on the website of the education department in the state in which you want to work. Biggest recruitment drive usually happens in Aug/Sep time so they can have people in place by the beginning of the new year (term 1 starts end Jan). If you rock up at other times and can get registered you can sometimes pick up short term contracts or casual relief but most permanent positions are filled in the main round later in the year. Where were you hoping to go?

I guess you have read all the other threads about getting your qualifications recognized etc.

blackjack041 Jan 9th 2009 9:04 pm

Re: Teaching in Oz
 

Originally Posted by nbn8 (Post 7140866)
Hi

How are teaching jobs normally offered in Australia? Could somebody please point me into the direction which I need to be going any websites etc gratefully received. thanks Nicky

Hi nbn8, contact smart teachers (uk website www.smartteachers.co.uk). They are based all over Australia as well as being based in the UK. I have had a great experience with them! :thumbsup:

Hope it works out for you.

Pete.

bezzanbob Jan 10th 2009 7:21 am

Re: Teaching in Oz
 
Never heard of Smart Teachers but will make contact myself.

Getting in temprarily is easier depending on the need but getting in perm. will require work from you.

Any otehr feedback re smart teachers would be welcome.

Bezza

hereshoping Jan 10th 2009 6:20 pm

Re: Teaching in Oz
 

Originally Posted by bezzanbob (Post 7149551)
Never heard of Smart Teachers but will make contact myself.

Getting in temprarily is easier depending on the need but getting in perm. will require work from you.

Any otehr feedback re smart teachers would be welcome.

Bezza

www.seek.com.au is a good one for independent schools. I've posted a few times about my smart teacher experiences... to summarise they found me a job before I left, but in a rubbish school. Since then absolutely no suitable jobs offered to me or my husband. They did send my husband info about the job I was resigning from and me info about a different job at the same school!

I think it depends where is Oz you are, they don't do much in VIC.

bezzanbob Jan 11th 2009 12:16 am

Re: Teaching in Oz
 
Dear Hereshopping,

Most probaly going down the Vic Ind. route myself so any insight as to your expereince would be welcome. Mine extends to a research project in several schools but some eight yearsago!

Bezza

hereshoping Jan 11th 2009 6:45 pm

Re: Teaching in Oz
 

Originally Posted by bezzanbob (Post 7152024)
Dear Hereshopping,

Most probaly going down the Vic Ind. route myself so any insight as to your expereince would be welcome. Mine extends to a research project in several schools but some eight yearsago!

Bezza

What do you need to know? I'm actually going back to the state system from January, though my Husband is staying in the independent school. Both of us have worked in Catholic schools which are very common in VIC and are generally cheaper than most other independent schools for the parents as they get extra funding. About 30% of students over here go to independent schools and they vary wildly in standard.

The very top ones can cost around $20,000 a year per student and you tend to get good teacher/student ratios and often each child will have their own laptop. However teachers are expected to work on saturday mornings and 2 evenings a week for extra curricular- it's not really optional. Most of the other schools I've visited I haven't really noticed much difference between state and private schools, though the private may have better facilities.

bezzanbob Jan 11th 2009 8:28 pm

Re: Teaching in Oz
 
What do you need to know?

Everything! Well an insight into how you have found the teaching would be very good as well as the wage structure

I'm actually going back to the state system from January, though my Husband is staying in the independent school. Both of us have worked in Catholic schools which are very common in VIC and are generally cheaper than most other independent schools for the parents as they get extra funding.

Never thought about the catholic sector being an Anglican. What is your denomination and secondly is this a question I need to ask? is there any reason for you going back to the state sector?

About 30% of students over here go to independent schools and they vary wildly in standard. The very top ones can cost around $20,000 a year per student and you tend to get good teacher/student ratios and often each child will have their own laptop. However teachers are expected to work on saturday mornings and 2 evenings a week for extra curricular

Not really a shock. Have worked Saturday mornings for the past 20 years and being a Housemaster at present its more a case of when i'm not on as opposed to when I'm off

Most of the other schools I've visited I haven't really noticed much difference between state and private schools, though the private may have better facilities.

hereshoping Jan 12th 2009 4:22 pm

Re: Teaching in Oz
 

Originally Posted by bezzanbob (Post 7155405)
What do you need to know?

Everything! Well an insight into how you have found the teaching would be very good as well as the wage structure

I'm actually going back to the state system from January, though my Husband is staying in the independent school. Both of us have worked in Catholic schools which are very common in VIC and are generally cheaper than most other independent schools for the parents as they get extra funding.

Never thought about the catholic sector being an Anglican. What is your denomination and secondly is this a question I need to ask? is there any reason for you going back to the state sector?

About 30% of students over here go to independent schools and they vary wildly in standard. The very top ones can cost around $20,000 a year per student and you tend to get good teacher/student ratios and often each child will have their own laptop. However teachers are expected to work on saturday mornings and 2 evenings a week for extra curricular

Not really a shock. Have worked Saturday mornings for the past 20 years and being a Housemaster at present its more a case of when i'm not on as opposed to when I'm off

Most of the other schools I've visited I haven't really noticed much difference between state and private schools, though the private may have better facilities.

For wages here is an idea- though a bit out of date now (VIC teachers have had a huge raise since these figures and so I think have WA)

Catholic and independent schools http://www.ieu.org.au/september_07.pdf
VIC state schools http://www.eduweb.vic.gov.au/edulibr...lary_rates.pdf

Most places will credit your UK experience so you shouldn't start at the bottom of the scale, it is discretionary though. For other responsibilities there are Positions of Leadership (POLs) similar to TLRs in the Uk. My Hubby will have a POL 3 for head of science which is worth about $6,000 a year. I'll be a Head of Year (or Year level Coordinator over here) which is a POL2 and worth about $4,000 a year. In general I think the salaries are slightly better, but pay for responsibilities is worse.

As for the teaching itself I've found ti to be pretty much the same, less exam oriented with no SATs and in VIC the only external exams in Year 12. Plus a lot more teacher assessment which I like, as it means you are truly assessing their work over the course not in a false, one off situation.

As for the catholic sector, we're actually atheists. A lot of the catholic schools seem be a bit token in their catholicism- others are very religious. The school I worked in last year didn't even ask about my religion at interview and the staff were pretty mixed. I did go for an interview at a school where they really pressed me on my 'support of a catholic ethos'. But there is certainly no requirement to be catholic. I'm moving back to state because it's an outstanding school and a good post for me... nothing sinister there!

quayley Feb 12th 2009 10:40 pm

Re: Teaching in Oz
 
if you are looking for teaching in western victoria and surf coast try [email protected] who can help with CRT work (supply)


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