noosa

Does a standard 4 week intensive course such as the Cambridge Certificate (old RSA) allow one to be qualified in order to be sponsored for a work visa in either Australia or NZ to teach EFL? Thank you.

Australia_bound?

Wouldn't know, but I'd say as English is the most commonly spoken language in both countries, getting work doing EFL teaching would be extremely hard!

Gibbo

ESL here. English Second Language. Can't help with your qualifications. Try the DET NSW website. There aren't enough ESL teachers employed here.

noosa

Gibbo:

So, there IS a need for such teachers?! DET means Department of Education and Training?? I am guessing. Sounds like optimistic news. Thanks.
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Swerv-o

I don't think that it would qualify you to work in a public school, nor to get a skills assessment as a teacher, but there are plenty of private companies that are offering language services, and TEFL/ESL is a popular route into working abroad. There appears to be a definite shortage of qualified people in this field.

There is one company that runs its intensive TEFL courses in Australia, so you could do that, and be on the ground available for interviews etc at this end when you finish. If I recal correctly, the course fees are the same if you do it in Nottingham or Sydney.

Hope this helps.

S

noosa

I agree there seems to be a global shortage of skilled people in this field. Now, this week Prime Minister Howard is putting through legislation that requires exams in English and civics before being granted citizenship. That should increase demand for classes. I guess what I am asking is does that Cambridge/RSA qualification allow you to be qualified to teach in those private companies on a 457? Another way of putting is does the Australian Government consider it to be a substandard qualification or an acceptable qualification for visa purposes? If unacceptable then a visa would not be issued in respect of an applicant holding it. A person already legally resident in Australia or NZ could get a job teaching with that qualification, but can a foreigner? Or, would the government say you need a postgraduate diploma in education of one years standing, for example? That's a big difference from a four week course.
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Gibbo

Try this website.Someone else found it useful.
www.teach.nsw.edu.au

sunnysider22

lots of teflers are required in oz. many asians go to oz to study. youl need a tefl/tesol at least but the work is there and can be well paid. if you have a degree try working for tafe. good pay and conditions. look at cairns and the gold coast. good luck mate.
p.s. check out daveseslcafe for more info...... some good threads on the forum.

noosa

Thanks Sunnysideer22:

But will these language schools sponsor foreigners for the 457 work visa?

[QUOTE=sunnysider22]lots of teflers are required in oz.

sunnysider22

[QUOTE=noosa]Thanks Sunnysideer22:

But will these language schools sponsor foreigners for the 457 work visa?

immediately i wouldnt have thought so but if your in demand and a decent teacher anything can happen.
where theres a will theres a way buddy. ride the wave and something will turn up. so many dodgy hawaian tshirt teachers around if you put on the glad rags(ties are essential) and smile a lot the asian students will love ya. give it a go. good luck.

Swerv-o

[QUOTE=noosa]Thanks Sunnysideer22:

But will these language schools sponsor foreigners for the 457 work visa?


Have a look at these sites:


www.tesolcourse.com (1)

www.teachinternational.com (2)

They offer the internationally accepted qualifications, and offer help in locating and finding work in Australia. (1) offers the opportunity to study the courses in Australia, so that you are then in the right place to be looking for work/sponsorship after you finish the course.

Also have a look at a company called Freespirit, who specialise in locating and organising work placements on 457 visas. May well be a way in for you.

S

connaust

Short answer no:

1. Plenty of English teachers with same qualification that may allow you to work in private ELICOS colleges but many Australians have same who have lived abroad.
2. Most ELICOS opportunities are in Sydney and Brisbane.
3. Most English teachers are qualified at minimum with Graduate Diploma or Master which state institutions and bodies require, generally....

However, child care may offer more work opportunities or maths/science or vocational/trades teaching...

Cheers Andrew
Cert IV WPA, CERT TEFLA, B. Bus., Grad Dip Ed. & Training, M. Ed.
www.aiec.biz

esperanza

I'm hoping that as EFL becomes more demanded (with increased immigration & legislation about language abilities) then it might become more highly regarded as a profession and the wages will go up.
I am a qualified high-school teacher, and am interested in teaching EFL/ESL but whenever I look in to it the wages are low and it seems to be treated like a gap-year job rather than a career.
If that situation changes then I'll be signing up to a course!

sunnysider22

agree about the wages and the job being seen as a gap year thing. a big shame but thats how it is when you get the fake dreadlock posse in classrooms all over the world thinking they can teach english by playing bad beetles covers on bashed up guitars. hopefully things will change in the future. im in the opposite position to you. loads of esl teaching experience but no degree. im thinking of going back to uni when i return to oz. if youve got a degree in education you can make a fortune in a few countries. i know a tefler with high school teaching experience in oz, now working in a bangkok international school. he brings home 110k baht a month. a truly handsome wage out here. the guy lives like a lord and still saves a fortune. dubai is also a great place to work with your qualifications. i hear that tafe is the place to make a really decent wage in oz. not on a par with high school teaching though i dont think. a lot less hastle i imagine though. happy new year from war torn BKK.

esperanza

Mmmm, I have heard about excellent tax-free wages in some far-east or middle-eastern countries. Sometimes with accomodation etc chucked in as well.
My problem is that I fear being stoned to death for being gobby about women's rights etc - it drives me crazy to think of women not being allowed to show an ankle or wear nail varnish or go to school, etc etc etc. I'd also hate to see the kind of sex-tourism that goes on in parts of Thailand. I know I'm generalising hugely but in general it seems that the big money for EFL is in countries where the culture is vastly non-western, and I don't want to live anywhere like that at the moment.
So roll on the increases in wages in Aussie EFL teaching!!