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mini_minton Jan 29th 2009 8:31 am

secondary teacher emmigration
 
Hi,

I'm currently doing my PGCE in secondary science. I'm planning to do my NQT year and then move out to Australia. I was wondering how easy this is to do and where to start? How long does this process usually take and will I need sponsorship?

Any help would be much apreciated, thank you.

coolerkingcooler Jan 29th 2009 9:41 am

Re: secondary teacher emmigration
 

Originally Posted by mini_minton (Post 7227186)
Hi,

I'm currently doing my PGCE in secondary science. I'm planning to do my NQT year and then move out to Australia. I was wondering how easy this is to do and where to start? How long does this process usually take and will I need sponsorship
Any help would be much apreciated, thank you.

Sponsorship will depend if you have enough points for a visa -http://www.immi.gov.au/
You need to check that that you can pass Teaching Australia's criteria ie 4yr degree or 3yr + PGCE - GTP does not qualify.
http://www.teachingaustralia.edu.au/ta/go

You cannot apply for a visa until you've been vetted and passed. I know nothing of WHV (working holiday visa) and if you can do that with teaching but make sure that you read pas posts particularly in the teaching section of BE so you can get to grips with some of the policies and the lingo used on here and the market place.


Cooler

hereshoping Jan 30th 2009 12:37 pm

Re: secondary teacher emmigration
 

Originally Posted by mini_minton (Post 7227186)
Hi,

I'm currently doing my PGCE in secondary science. I'm planning to do my NQT year and then move out to Australia. I was wondering how easy this is to do and where to start? How long does this process usually take and will I need sponsorship?

Any help would be much apreciated, thank you.

YOu won't need sponsorship if you have the points independently - current pass mark is 120 but it might change. We had to teach in the UK for 3 years to get a bonus 10 points for work experience to get over here.

Occasionally some states do sponsor science teachers so you might be in luck there, people are always asking about getting sponsorship from a school- I've never heard of anyone being successful.

Good luck

mini_minton Jan 31st 2009 11:25 pm

Re: secondary teacher emmigration
 
Thank you.


I meet the 120 points requirement without needing sponsorship fortunately and the registering with teach australia seems pretty straightforward. Does anyone know how much the visa will cost and how long that usually takes to organise once you have been verified with teach australia?

WS Jan 31st 2009 11:29 pm

Re: secondary teacher immigration
 
To get the skills assessment from TeachingAustralia will take between 4 - 8 weeks (ish!!!). Costs $450.

Once you've got this you can then lodge your 175 application, which can take between 4 month to over a year to be granted. Usually around 5-8 months if you're from a low risk country (like the UK). Costs $2,105

mini_minton Jan 31st 2009 11:35 pm

Re: secondary teacher emmigration
 
Thank you that's really helpful. How easy is it to apply for the 175 visa? I was hoping to do some travelling before I go over and so was wondering if I would have to be in the UK while my application was being processed?

WS Feb 1st 2009 12:01 am

Re: secondary teacher emmigration
 
Whilst your application is being processed you can be anywhere. If you are in Australia when its granted you just need to leave the country so it can be granted and then you can return.

The 175 visa is more expensive but you don't need sponsorship from the state, can do any work you want (or no work!) anywhere in Australia instead of being tied to a school for two years in WA.

mini_minton Feb 1st 2009 12:05 am

Re: secondary teacher emmigration
 
That is awesome news. Thank you very much for your help.

WS Feb 1st 2009 12:13 am

Re: secondary teacher emmigration
 
Whatever route you decide to go, you will need a skills assessment from Teaching Australia: http://www.teachingaustralia.edu.au/ta/go/home/pid/418

Then I'd read this: http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/gener...migration/175/

hereshoping Feb 1st 2009 5:25 pm

Re: secondary teacher emmigration
 

Originally Posted by mini_minton (Post 7235799)
Thank you.


I meet the 120 points requirement without needing sponsorship fortunately and the registering with teach australia seems pretty straightforward. Does anyone know how much the visa will cost and how long that usually takes to organise once you have been verified with teach australia?

In case you're not aware... after getting your visa (fingers crossed) you then have to register with the dept of education in the state you want to teach in. This can take another few months and cost a couple of hundred dollars (exact figures depend on the state)

WS Feb 1st 2009 7:14 pm

Re: secondary teacher emmigration
 
Its free to register with the Department of Education in WA, then you go on a free three day induction course to be allowed to work in state schools :)

saoghalbeag Feb 4th 2009 11:16 am

Re: secondary teacher emmigration
 
It's free in WA??? :eek: Why don't they put an ad on the tv? I'd have gone there long ago...I'm just getting ready to pay my Qld Teacher Rego which is now $85 because I didn't pay before Dec 31st (because I was trying to exercise some positive thinking and by not paying I was putting faith in the hope that I would NOT STILL BE HERE for the start of school *sob*) Perhaps all the daytime telly is sending me mad???

WS Feb 4th 2009 10:31 pm

Re: secondary teacher emmigration
 
You might be confused between the Dept of Education and WACOT.

Dept of Education allows you to work in state schools, usually after attending an induction course and period of assessed teaching in schools (10 days in WA). This is all free.

WACOT - WA College of Teaching which you have to register with before you can teach anywhere. This is $70 a year.

saoghalbeag Feb 6th 2009 1:07 pm

Re: secondary teacher emmigration
 
oh the department - yes, free to register with them here in Queensland too. Just have to pay QCT first...

Simo429 Feb 7th 2009 1:54 am

Re: secondary teacher emmigration
 
im doing my pgce in secondary science as well, my plan pretty much follows yours! how are you finding it? good i hope

cheers for all the great information everyone

mini_minton Feb 11th 2009 1:50 am

Re: secondary teacher emmigration
 
Really liking it, just got my job sorted for september which is a weight off. Now all I have to worry about is passing!

I'm clear on all the steps now the only thing I'm not sure about is if I have to have completed the years teaching practise before applying to teach australia or if I can apply during that year?

I'm worried as I want to go next summer and I will need to have my TA approval before sending off my visa application. So ideally I would like my TA approval before the end of the academic year so that I can get my visa application going before I begin my travels. If I have to finish the academic year prior to applying then obviously it will not be possible to go summer 2010.

hereshoping Feb 12th 2009 8:04 pm

Re: secondary teacher emmigration
 

Originally Posted by mini_minton (Post 7274780)
Really liking it, just got my job sorted for september which is a weight off. Now all I have to worry about is passing!

I'm clear on all the steps now the only thing I'm not sure about is if I have to have completed the years teaching practise before applying to teach australia or if I can apply during that year?

I'm worried as I want to go next summer and I will need to have my TA approval before sending off my visa application. So ideally I would like my TA approval before the end of the academic year so that I can get my visa application going before I begin my travels. If I have to finish the academic year prior to applying then obviously it will not be possible to go summer 2010.

You can apply to teaching australia before you finish your NQT year (congrats on the job by the way) and have that in place. Then when you finish NQT you can put in for your visa.

Good luck.

sjleroux Feb 17th 2009 11:24 am

Re: secondary teacher emmigration
 

Originally Posted by saoghalbeag (Post 7258760)
oh the department - yes, free to register with them here in Queensland too. Just have to pay QCT first...

Hi there,

Argh I'm so confused...
#1 I don't know how to use this thread 'situation'
#2 I've just got all the paper work downloaded for the QLD registration and need help, as this is all too confusing....

Can you offer any ideas?

Simo429 Feb 17th 2009 6:16 pm

Re: secondary teacher emmigration
 
god your really lucky to have sorted a job already, everything that ive seen is for physics teachers and as a biology teacher its not what i fancy

mini_minton Feb 18th 2009 9:10 pm

Re: secondary teacher emmigration
 
There do seem to be a lot of physics teacher positions, look at the general science positions that's what I did. Where are you based?

Simo429 Feb 18th 2009 9:27 pm

Re: secondary teacher emmigration
 

Originally Posted by mini_minton (Post 7300967)
There do seem to be a lot of physics teacher positions, look at the general science positions that's what I did. Where are you based?

im at notts uni but i live in derbyshire

mini_minton Feb 20th 2009 6:21 am

Re: secondary teacher emmigration
 
I don't know what jobs are like round there. There were not many in my area, I ended up in London.


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