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Old Oct 7th 2017, 3:06 pm
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Originally Posted by Annetje View Post
I think she is the top of the league though
definitely the wounded antelope at the back of the herd and there are lions and hyenas about
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Old Oct 7th 2017, 3:14 pm
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Originally Posted by Garbatellamike View Post
definitely the wounded antelope at the back of the herd and there are lions and hyenas about
... Unfair.
Lions & hyenas only kill for food - not for pleasure and most certainly not to show their self- importance.
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... Unfair.
Lions & hyenas only kill for food - not for pleasure and most certainly not to show their self- importance.
they also kill for territory and dominance
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Old Oct 18th 2017, 3:18 pm
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The fact that Universal Benefits claimants have to use a prime rate telephone number to access the help line convinces is utterly ****ing bonkers.
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Old Oct 18th 2017, 6:09 pm
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The fact that Universal Benefits claimants have to use a prime rate telephone number to access the help line convinces is utterly ****ing bonkers.
But now, evidently, Der Leadership, has announced it's going to be free...
I just can't get my head round things at the moment. It reminds me of a load-of-kids in the playground - with as much intellect.
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Old Oct 18th 2017, 8:17 pm
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But now, evidently, Der Leadership, has announced it's going to be free...
I just can't get my head round things at the moment. It reminds me of a load-of-kids in the playground - with as much intellect.
They just lost a vote about the roll out of UC, 299 votes to 0, yes all tories abstained except for 1 who voted with labour. Unfortunately it's not a binding vote.
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Old Oct 19th 2017, 5:53 pm
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They just lost a vote about the roll out of UC, 299 votes to 0, yes all tories abstained except for 1 who voted with labour. Unfortunately it's not a binding vote.

Or as Mrs May now often cries ....
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Old Oct 19th 2017, 8:02 pm
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The fact that Universal Benefits claimants have to use a prime rate telephone number to access the help line convinces is utterly ****ing bonkers.
Whilst I agree that the line should free, the government actually did a very poor job defending that. For starters, it wasn't a premium rate number as was claimed - it is a 0345 number, so a non-geographical number charged at the normal national rate for 01 or 02 numbers. As such it is rolled into your inclusive minutes package with all the major mobile networks; O2, EE, Vodafone, etc..
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Old Oct 19th 2017, 8:50 pm
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Whilst I agree that the line should free, the government actually did a very poor job defending that. For starters, it wasn't a premium rate number as was claimed - it is a 0345 number, so a non-geographical number charged at the normal national rate for 01 or 02 numbers. As such it is rolled into your inclusive minutes package with all the major mobile networks; O2, EE, Vodafone, etc..
Inclusive minutes packages with O2, Vodafone etc - is that something a really strapped-for-cash benefits claimant is likely to subscribe to?

That's a genuine question, by the way - I haven't much of a clue about this sort of thing but tend to steer clear of the packages as a (very) low usage customer. I'd have thought it might be one of the first things to go by the board if one were really on one's uppers.
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Inclusive minutes packages with O2, Vodafone etc - is that something a really strapped-for-cash benefits claimant is likely to subscribe to?

That's a genuine question, by the way - I haven't much of a clue about this sort of thing but tend to steer clear of the packages as a (very) low usage customer. I'd have thought it might be one of the first things to go by the board if one were really on one's uppers.
It might surprise you. Even if you don't have a contract simply topping £10 a month would be enough to get you a couple of hundred inclusive minutes a month. Far more likely than someone having a landline these days.
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Old Oct 19th 2017, 9:21 pm
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Inclusive minutes packages with O2, Vodafone etc - is that something a really strapped-for-cash benefits claimant is likely to subscribe to?

That's a genuine question, by the way - I haven't much of a clue about this sort of thing but tend to steer clear of the packages as a (very) low usage customer. I'd have thought it might be one of the first things to go by the board if one were really on one's uppers.
I agree - I have PAYG mobiles, so no "inclusive minutes", and non-geographical numbers are routinely charged at premium rates on mobile networks - "Numbers starting with 0345 cost up to 9p a minute if you’re phoning from a landline. If you’re phoning from a mobile it can cost anything from 3p to 55p a minute." (https://fullfact.org/economy/how-muc...helpline-cost/)

The presumption that everyone has access to a contract mobile is like the presumption that everyone uses Twitter or Facebook, or has access to the internet, as more and more organizations drop contact numbers and email addresses in favour of these means of access.

If any numbers should be free calls, it should be those required by people in need .... and those where extended wait times are the norm. How many people are willing to spend £5 or more to ask a simple question?
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Old Oct 22nd 2017, 8:08 pm
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Just thought I'd re-post this (prob. done by others?), in case anyone contracts a case of Boris-sympathy when the leadership is up-for-grabs.
This is the man who represents Brits to the world and, if the positions were reversed, he'd do the same again to anyone who gets in his way.

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In defence of the Tories, it must be remembered that the current situation is fundamentally unmanageable - they have an impossible task albeit of their own making.

I doubt any party could make any sense of it.
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In defence of the Tories, it must be remembered that the current situation is fundamentally unmanageable - they have an impossible task albeit of their own making.

I doubt any party could make any sense of it.
But it's also entirely self-inflicted, so **** 'em.
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It might surprise you. Even if you don't have a contract simply topping £10 a month would be enough to get you a couple of hundred inclusive minutes a month. Far more likely than someone having a landline these days.
My own observations relate to close acquaintances who say they are feeling the pinch (some claim UC).

In their case it's common to have contract or PAYG inclusive minutes along with near top of the range PayThroughTheNose handsets. Seems fairly common these days.
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