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Tommy Robinson in the slammer

Old Jun 17th 2018, 11:17 am
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Originally Posted by paulry View Post
Which prison is that?
Can't remember but it was in the news last week.
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Old Jun 17th 2018, 11:52 am
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Originally Posted by mikelincs View Post
Can't remember but it was in the news last week.
Ah okay, thanks anyway.

But isn't 76% white still out of step with the UK demographics which indicates the white population is 82%?
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Old Jun 17th 2018, 12:05 pm
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Default Re: Tommy Robinson in the slammer

Originally Posted by paulry View Post
Ah okay, thanks anyway.

But isn't 76% white still out of step with the UK demographics which indicates the white population is 82%?
General demographics and prison demographics though are not the same.

That said, the UK demographics in this report - http://researchbriefings.files.parli...34/SN04334.pdf - show that the general population aged over 15 is 88% white, whilst this figure is 73% for UK prisons. Not sure if 76% is a significant difference from the norm.

Edit - figures referenced are from page 12 which would be prisons in England and Wales, and not the UK as a whole.

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Old Jun 17th 2018, 1:25 pm
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So ignore the message because you don't like the messenger, cool.
Huh?
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Old Jun 17th 2018, 1:36 pm
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He's a convicted football hooligan, drunkenly beat up a policeman, a fraudster, an illegal immigrant, and a head-butter.

Some people have a different view from mine of what constitutes 'decent'.

And if he's 'misunderstood' what exactly was he trying to convey by these above actions?
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Old Jun 17th 2018, 2:51 pm
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Originally Posted by paulry View Post
Ah okay, thanks anyway.

But isn't 76% white still out of step with the UK demographics which indicates the white population is 82%?
So what, have you got a thing against coloured and people if different races and religions.
Silly question , we know you have.
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The problem with little Tommy (Steven), formerly BNP, EDL, BFP, etc is not that he adds his voice to pointing out crimes, but that he attributes those crimes to Islam rather than to the behaviour of the criminal, thereby contributing to bigotted stereotyping and general Islamophobia and xenophobia. At a wild guess, he would not take the crimes committed by, oh let's say just at random, a white non-Muslim British citizen and from there extrapolate in the same way about that group.


This Tom Robinson is a better bet, imo. I will take RAR over EDL any day.

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Old Jun 17th 2018, 4:53 pm
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Originally Posted by old.sparkles View Post
General demographics and prison demographics though are not the same.

That said, the UK demographics in this report - http://researchbriefings.files.parli...34/SN04334.pdf - show that the general population aged over 15 is 88% white, whilst this figure is 73% for UK prisons. Not sure if 76% is a significant difference from the norm.

Edit - figures referenced are from page 12 which would be prisons in England and Wales, and not the UK as a whole.
Thanks for that. Wow, the prison population pretty much doubled between 1995 and 2010.
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The problem with little Tommy (Steven), formerly BNP, EDL, BFP, etc is not that he adds his voice to pointing out crimes, but that he attributes those crimes to Islam rather than to the behaviour of the criminal, thereby contributing to bigotted stereotyping and general Islamophobia and xenophobia. At a wild guess, he would not take the crimes committed by, oh let's say just at random, a white non-Muslim British citizen and from there extrapolate in the same way about that group.


This Tom Robinson is a better bet, imo. I will take RAR over EDL any day.

https://youtu.be/7Qev84xYA7w
So is it just an uncanny coincidence that nearly all of the rapists involved in these grooming gangs are muslims and the victims white?
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Old Jun 17th 2018, 5:11 pm
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So what, have you got a thing against coloured and people if different races and religions.
Silly question , we know you have.
Is it verboten to question this kind of inequality?
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Old Jun 17th 2018, 5:16 pm
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...... that is with a population that it 76% white.
Moved from what prison with what stats? It wouldn't be the made up stat of 71% Muslim would it?
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Old Jun 17th 2018, 5:39 pm
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So is it just an uncanny coincidence that nearly all of the rapists involved in these grooming gangs are muslims and the victims white?
1. Educate yourself

https://fullfact.org/crime/what-do-w...inst-children/

2. Look up the meaning of the phrase "correlational fallacy" or cum hoc ergo propter hoc.

3. "White" and "Muslim" are not opposites.
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Old Jun 17th 2018, 6:01 pm
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1. Educate yourself

https://fullfact.org/crime/what-do-w...inst-children/

2. Look up the meaning of the phrase "correlational fallacy" or cum hoc ergo propter hoc.

3. "White" and "Muslim" are not opposites.
One point I have made before ---Why are there so many girls in care or classed as "vulnerable" in the UK? Why are girls in early 'teens' wandering the streets and falling prey to gangs of men on the lookout for victims to rape? My daughters are adults now but I cannot imagine them at the age of 13/14/15 going out even one evening without us knowing where they were.

Also, why do sexual predators often target girls of a different nationality? British paedophiles travel the world in search of vulnerable young girls.
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Old Jun 17th 2018, 7:07 pm
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One point I have made before ---Why are there so many girls in care or classed as "vulnerable" in the UK? Why are girls in early 'teens' wandering the streets and falling prey to gangs of men on the lookout for victims to rape? My daughters are adults now but I cannot imagine them at the age of 13/14/15 going out even one evening without us knowing where they were.

Also, why do sexual predators often target girls of a different nationality? British paedophiles travel the world in search of vulnerable young girls.
I agree a certain type of Brit leaps to attack a community or religion rather than individuals but ignores the fact that every year thousands of Brits travel to the far East in search of sexual tourism but being so called white Christans that is OK in their minds.
A member off any community be they an immigeant in the Uk or Brit in Bangkok are both the lowest if the low.
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Old Jun 17th 2018, 7:56 pm
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... British paedophiles travel the world in search of vulnerable young girls.
Funny that Tommy doesn't seem bothered by that isn't it? Wonder why that is?

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