A TIO Christmas
Dec 28th 2021, 10:07 pm
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Re: A TIO Christmas
Originally Posted by BristolUK
I've told you...I'm not allowed to argue unless you've paid.
I've been a member since 03
I've paid in blood, sweat and tears. Or was that a band?
Dec 28th 2021, 10:31 pm
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Re: A TIO Christmas
Originally Posted by Lion in Winter
I've been a member since 03 I've paid in blood, sweat and tears. Or was that a band?
I've paid in blood, sweat and tears. Or was that a band?
Dec 28th 2021, 10:32 pm
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Re: A TIO Christmas
Originally Posted by Lion in Winter
Fine by me. To me, it just makes sense to make a plan for the future, with specific points raised and shared decisions made on what to do about them. I'm interested in making BE better, not just in having another argument.
People have different opinions about the same topic, leading to discussion, this is not necessarily wrong is it?
I would have thought that personal accusations and abuse including various negative emojis which are used for the same purpose are not the way for a 'conversation/'discussion'? Discuss the point in question not the 'poster'.
Dec 28th 2021, 10:53 pm
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Re: A TIO Christmas
To be fair I don't think separating people into left and right wing is at all helpful. Your politics doesn't define you as a person, your behaviour does. I remember a Tory voter offering to pay for flight upgrades for a posters son, and to pay for flights for a mod. I also remember a vehemently left wing poster wishing another poster dead. If you want harmony, start looking beyond the cross on the ballot paper. If people can't make their point without sarcasm, and denigrating someone else's experience / point of view then they're part of the problem.
No decent person would disagree with racists etc being made short work of, but I get the feeling that after the uber racist was banned and it left a void which afew permanently offended posters needed filling. I was on the receiving end of a couple of attempts myself, which I found as childish as it was perplexing, but those are the sorts of people who turn forums to shit, not the ones with different points of view. Happy new year
No decent person would disagree with racists etc being made short work of, but I get the feeling that after the uber racist was banned and it left a void which afew permanently offended posters needed filling. I was on the receiving end of a couple of attempts myself, which I found as childish as it was perplexing, but those are the sorts of people who turn forums to shit, not the ones with different points of view. Happy new year
Dec 28th 2021, 10:56 pm
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Re: A TIO Christmas
Originally Posted by stevenglish1
To be fair I don't think separating people into left and right wing is at all helpful. Your politics doesn't define you as a person, your behaviour does. I remember a Tory voter offering to pay for flight upgrades for a posters son, and to pay for flights for a mod. I also remember a vehemently left wing poster wishing another poster dead. If you want harmony, start looking beyond the cross on the ballot paper. If people can't make their point without sarcasm, and denigrating someone else's experience / point of view then they're part of the problem.
No decent person would disagree with racists etc being made short work of, but I get the feeling that after the uber racist was banned and it left a void which afew permanently offended posters needed filling. I was on the receiving end of a couple of attempts myself, which I found as childish as it was perplexing, but those are the sorts of people who turn forums to shit, not the ones with different points of view. Happy new year
No decent person would disagree with racists etc being made short work of, but I get the feeling that after the uber racist was banned and it left a void which afew permanently offended posters needed filling. I was on the receiving end of a couple of attempts myself, which I found as childish as it was perplexing, but those are the sorts of people who turn forums to shit, not the ones with different points of view. Happy new year
May everyone's 2022 be btter than 2021..
Dec 28th 2021, 11:08 pm
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Re: A TIO Christmas
Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee
You and I have disagreed on at least a few things, but you also made some very good posts along the way.
May everyone's 2022 be btter than 2021..
May everyone's 2022 be btter than 2021..
I hope it's better but I'm not optimistic
Dec 28th 2021, 11:34 pm
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Re: A TIO Christmas
Originally Posted by stevenglish1
absolutely, and because we're adults our disagreement on subject a, doesn't mean we now hate eachother and must disagree on subject b as a matter of principle.
I hope it's better but I'm not optimistic
I hope it's better but I'm not optimistic
It couldn't be much *****.
Dec 28th 2021, 11:51 pm
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Re: A TIO Christmas
Originally Posted by stevenglish1
To be fair I don't think separating people into left and right wing is at all helpful. Your politics doesn't define you as a person, your behaviour does. I remember a Tory voter offering to pay for flight upgrades for a posters son, and to pay for flights for a mod. I also remember a vehemently left wing poster wishing another poster dead. If you want harmony, start looking beyond the cross on the ballot paper. If people can't make their point without sarcasm, and denigrating someone else's experience / point of view then they're part of the problem.
No decent person would disagree with racists etc being made short work of, but I get the feeling that after the uber racist was banned and it left a void which afew permanently offended posters needed filling. I was on the receiving end of a couple of attempts myself, which I found as childish as it was perplexing, but those are the sorts of people who turn forums to shit, not the ones with different points of view. Happy new year
No decent person would disagree with racists etc being made short work of, but I get the feeling that after the uber racist was banned and it left a void which afew permanently offended posters needed filling. I was on the receiving end of a couple of attempts myself, which I found as childish as it was perplexing, but those are the sorts of people who turn forums to shit, not the ones with different points of view. Happy new year
Taking the above as a baseline, surely having some guidelines in place that ensure some common decency, AND ENFORCING THEM, really shouldn't limit any reasonable discourse. Regardless of "which side" you are on. (Why is this even divided into sides?).
Let's not pretend that anyone reading this doesn't know what behaviors we are discussing here. It's pretty obvious.
Dec 28th 2021, 11:54 pm
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Re: A TIO Christmas
Originally Posted by Nutek
Good post. This is very much in line with my thoughts.
Taking the above as a baseline, surely having some guidelines in place that ensure some common decency, AND ENFORCING THEM, really shouldn't limit any reasonable discourse. Regardless of "which side" you are on. (Why is this even divided into sides?).
Let's not pretend that anyone reading this doesn't know what behaviors we are discussing here. It's pretty obvious.
Taking the above as a baseline, surely having some guidelines in place that ensure some common decency, AND ENFORCING THEM, really shouldn't limit any reasonable discourse. Regardless of "which side" you are on. (Why is this even divided into sides?).
Let's not pretend that anyone reading this doesn't know what behaviors we are discussing here. It's pretty obvious.
).And the guidelines apparently need to be a bit more explicit than those we have. And, I would expect posting members, not just mods, to help manage the whole thing. Mods alone can't possibly do it.
I also agree with another poster that TIO needs a redo. Maybe call it "Current affairs" or some such and not set it up as a place for a bar fight - bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Dec 28th 2021, 11:57 pm
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Re: A TIO Christmas
Originally Posted by old.sparkles
Does that cover the 30 minute argument or the full hour
Dec 28th 2021, 11:58 pm
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Re: A TIO Christmas
Originally Posted by Lion in Winter
The full bloody hour, and a free one thrown in I should think, by now.
Dec 28th 2021, 11:59 pm
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Re: A TIO Christmas
Originally Posted by old.sparkles
Dec 29th 2021, 1:21 am
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Re: A TIO Christmas
I'm also noticing that a couple of particular habitual TIO posters have absented themselves almost entirely from TIO since this particular discussion began.
Just saying.
Just saying.
Dec 29th 2021, 1:55 am
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Re: A TIO Christmas
Originally Posted by Lion in Winter
I'm also noticing that a couple of particular habitual TIO posters have absented themselves almost entirely from TIO since this particular discussion began.
Just saying.
Just saying.
Dec 29th 2021, 2:10 am
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Re: A TIO Christmas
Originally Posted by stevenglish1
I've got to be honest, I was half thinking I was one of the bad guys before I posted
