Taking The Knee
#16

Nope. publicly "taking the knee" such as we're seeing is yet more political correct virtue signalling imported from the lunatic fringe of the USA. Our country, one of the finest, most un-racist countries in the world is way better than to be subjected to and/or submit to an ideology that aims to divide us. If those sports stars want to repeatedly honour and/or submit themselves to something, then better they honour or submit themselves to our fallen heroes and heroines - for they are immeasurably more worthy.
When you say 'our country', which are you referring to?
#18

There's plenty of racism in Australia. Take it from a real Aussie.
Edit: to clarify, 'a real Aussie' is someone who not only lives here, but also bothers to actually look around and see the country as it is, great bits, horrible bits and all. It doesn't matter where they were born, but it matters that they don't lie.
Edit: to clarify, 'a real Aussie' is someone who not only lives here, but also bothers to actually look around and see the country as it is, great bits, horrible bits and all. It doesn't matter where they were born, but it matters that they don't lie.

#19

The topic thread is specifically referring to the UK. I know we're Australians (though not real apparently) but we are British too so yes its our country.
#20

For clarity, the opening line on this thread states:
"Found this comment on a UK Forum..."
And in my response I repeatedly referred to the UK. I'm willing to be corrected but I think it's clear which country we're referring to.
"Found this comment on a UK Forum..."
And in my response I repeatedly referred to the UK. I'm willing to be corrected but I think it's clear which country we're referring to.
#21

And the country comment because I couldn't recognise which country you meant since none fit the bill of 'most un-racist' amongst those I thought you were referring to - UK (not one country, but group of countries) or AUS, both of which have racism issues.
Whilst the OP referred to a UK forum, I do not watch UK sports generally and 'taking a knee' is most often seen in the US I believe, although I've seen some drivers do the same in F1. This form of peaceful protest does seem to be global
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#23

The 'BINGO' comment was related to the number of buzz words you threw into the remark - enough for a full house.
And the country comment because I couldn't recognise which country you meant since none fit the bill of 'most un-racist' amongst those I thought you were referring to - UK (not one country, but group of countries) or AUS, both of which have racism issues.
Whilst the OP referred to a UK forum, I do not watch UK sports generally and 'taking a knee' is most often seen in the US I believe, although I've seen some drivers do the same in F1. This form of peaceful protest does seem to be global
And the country comment because I couldn't recognise which country you meant since none fit the bill of 'most un-racist' amongst those I thought you were referring to - UK (not one country, but group of countries) or AUS, both of which have racism issues.
Whilst the OP referred to a UK forum, I do not watch UK sports generally and 'taking a knee' is most often seen in the US I believe, although I've seen some drivers do the same in F1. This form of peaceful protest does seem to be global
#24

You don't consider the UK to be one of the most un-racist countries? I'm intrigued. Which countries are less racist in your book? And points out of 10 how racist do you see the UK (one country - but you can split them up into Scotland, Wales, etc if you prefer). Likewise - since that got brought up points out of 10 for how racist is Australia?
It would be nice if we could accept that we are all humans. That your gender, colour, wealth or religion, should not limit what you can be, or change how you are treated. Until that is true, I welcome all forms of peaceful protest that might make a difference - even if it's one issue at a time!
#25

Seeing some posts on FB from people I worked with in the UK, plenty of racism - both overt and covert. The same would be true here in Australia. I wouldn't want to rate either, and I haven't lived in enough for a comparison on a global scale, or 'points out of 10'.
It would be nice if we could accept that we are all humans. That your gender, colour, wealth or religion, should not limit what you can be, or change how you are treated. Until that is true, I welcome all forms of peaceful protest that might make a difference - even if it's one issue at a time!
It would be nice if we could accept that we are all humans. That your gender, colour, wealth or religion, should not limit what you can be, or change how you are treated. Until that is true, I welcome all forms of peaceful protest that might make a difference - even if it's one issue at a time!
A nice virtue signal bingo line up above, btw, but I think you'll find that in the modern day the overwhelming majority of people in Western countries (not just the UK, Australia and the USA) agree and support all of those things, and we don't need to signal our submission and bend our knees to some organisation that seeks to divide us for that.
#26

But you said none fit the bill as most un-racist so some clearly are more un-racist than the UK (and Australia) in your book. I would very much like to know which countries they are because out of my experiences of visiting and living in many countries, the UK is up there with the best - and I'm not just saying that because I am (with Spouses permission) a real British person. And while I'm aware that Australia does have racism, the overwhelming majority of it's people and everywhere possible in its laws are un-racist so I'm troubled that a real Aussie sees plenty of racism here. But it's easy-peasy to slap a label on people and places but often entirely another thing to justify that label.
A nice virtue signal bingo line up above, btw, but I think you'll find that in the modern day the overwhelming majority of people in Western countries (not just the UK, Australia and the USA) agree and support all of those things, and we don't need to signal our submission and bend our knees to some organisation that seeks to divide us for that.
A nice virtue signal bingo line up above, btw, but I think you'll find that in the modern day the overwhelming majority of people in Western countries (not just the UK, Australia and the USA) agree and support all of those things, and we don't need to signal our submission and bend our knees to some organisation that seeks to divide us for that.
Edit - sorry, on the BINGO, I'm unclear on what buzz words I used. Could you highlight as none on my card.
#28

A highly regarded police officer is killed on duty in London and few football clubs can even be bothered to observe a minutes silence. Yet week after week after week after week they take the knee for a tragic death that happened thousands of miles away in a foreign country. VJ Day came and went and no one took the knee for the millions of Allied soldiers killed in action.
#29

A highly regarded police officer is killed on duty in London and few football clubs can even be bothered to observe a minutes silence. Yet week after week after week after week they take the knee for a tragic death that happened thousands of miles away in a foreign country. VJ Day came and went and no one took the knee for the millions of Allied soldiers killed in action.
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