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Re: Shamima Begum has UK citizenship revoked
Originally Posted by stevenglish1
(Post 12655560)
Unlike you to let something go completely over your head :sarcasm: Next time someone mentions a couple of Islamic attacks, let's see what your response is.
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Re: Shamima Begum has UK citizenship revoked
Well that was quick, and apologies a train not a bus.
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Re: Shamima Begum has UK citizenship revoked
Originally Posted by stevenglish1
(Post 12655560)
Unlike you to let something go completely over your head :sarcasm: Next time someone mentions a couple of Islamic attacks, let's see what your response is.
I condemn all terrorists all racists all bigots whatever their colour , race or religion., Muslim or white Christian, . |
Re: Shamima Begum has UK citizenship revoked
Originally Posted by EMR
(Post 12655788)
Very simple, probably too simple for you to comprehend.
I condemn all terrorists all racists all bigots whatever their colour , race or religion., Muslim or white Christian, . |
Re: Shamima Begum has UK citizenship revoked
Originally Posted by EMR
(Post 12655788)
Very simple, probably too simple for you to comprehend.
I condemn all terrorists all racists all bigots whatever their colour , race or religion., Muslim or white Christian, . Simple's about right, you just condemn the ones that suit your point at any given time. |
Re: Shamima Begum has UK citizenship revoked
Originally Posted by Boiler
(Post 12655793)
Even the ones who have been deradicalised, or were 15 when they started?
If thinking evil was a crime half the world's population would be in prison . |
Re: Shamima Begum has UK citizenship revoked
Originally Posted by EMR
(Post 12657880)
Where is your evidence that she is a terrorist, or are you turning into Stalinist thought police.
If thinking evil was a crime half the world's population would be in prison . |
Re: Shamima Begum has UK citizenship revoked
Originally Posted by Boiler
(Post 12657887)
I believe her, what she said. What she did, who she supported.
As has been said already, what people think or who they support is not a crime. If you can point to no crime that she has committed that would warrant her being labelled a danger to the UK, I think you should withdraw. |
Re: Shamima Begum has UK citizenship revoked
Originally Posted by macliam
(Post 12657937)
So, you believe that she spent her time at home, looking after her children.......
As has been said already, what people think or who they support is not a crime. If you can point to no crime that she has committed that would warrant her being labelled a danger to the UK, I think you should withdraw. From Terrorism Act 2000 [26]
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Re: Shamima Begum has UK citizenship revoked
Originally Posted by Boiler
(Post 12657939)
Covered by the Terrorism Act 2000
From Terrorism Act 2000 [26]
Bring her back, put her on trial for any charges that the CPS thinks will stick, that's what I've been saying all along........... |
Re: Shamima Begum has UK citizenship revoked
Originally Posted by macliam
(Post 12657992)
So, where does it say "made stateless and left to her fate" ?????
Bring her back, put her on trial for any charges that the CPS thinks will stick, that's what I've been saying all along........... If she wants to visit the UK she needs to get her Passport and apply for a visa. |
Re: Shamima Begum has UK citizenship revoked
Originally Posted by macliam
(Post 12657992)
So, where does it say "made stateless and left to her fate" ?????
Bring her back, put her on trial for any charges that the CPS thinks will stick, that's what I've been saying all along........... |
Re: Shamima Begum has UK citizenship revoked
Originally Posted by Boiler
(Post 12658052)
You asked a question and I answered that question, she is not stateless as had been repeatedly discussed.
If she wants to visit the UK she needs to get her Passport and apply for a visa. Also, repeating that she is not stateless does not make it true. She had British citizenship by birth, until it was revoked by Javid. She has never held or applied for Bangladeshi citizenship nor has it been granted, so she is stateless. This is not a game of "pass the parcel", no matter how hard you try to make it so.. |
Re: Shamima Begum has UK citizenship revoked
I listed all the possible charges, some seem eminently applicable, you do not have to tick all the boxes. All theoretical, I actual hope the situation never arises.
The 400 plus who have been returned is deeply worrying, and no doubt the tip of the iceberg. There is a certain inevitability of the horrors ahead. The other points have been responded to so best you review the thread, |
Re: Shamima Begum has UK citizenship revoked
Originally Posted by macliam
(Post 12658088)
You have published a list of suggested offences, some of which are quite frankly risible - "money laundering to aid terrorism", "parking in a prohibited area"...... why not "handling a salmon in suspicious circumstances", or "Beating or shaking a carpet or rug in the street"? However, she has been charged with none of them, and has not been allowed to defend herself at trial or found guilty, so your list is worthless - particularly in view of the 400+ fighters who have already been allowed to return to the UK.
Also, repeating that she is not stateless does not make it true. She had British citizenship by birth, until it was revoked by Javid. She has never held or applied for Bangladeshi citizenship nor has it been granted, so she is stateless. This is not a game of "pass the parcel", no matter how hard you try to make it so.. |
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