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anotherlimey Mar 13th 2019 1:12 pm

Re: Shamima Begum has UK citizenship revoked
 

Originally Posted by EMR (Post 12652840)
Not against killing terrorists , but killing innocent women and children whether a deliberate calculation, a policy , or side effect which creates more terrorists..

It might surprise you but terrorists existed before we bombed any civilians.

Hypothetical question time... back in the 90s the CIA was trying to get Bin Laden in Afghanistan, they didn't strike, at least on one instance, because of worries over collateral damage (a Saudi Prince no less). Knowing what we know now, we could have avoided 9/11, Iraq, Afghanistan, ISIS. 100ks killed needlessly, mostly Muslims, etc. Would that change your mind? Would you just send the Navy SEALs or SAS to have done it? Or do all the dead brown people not matter as long as you don't kill a few other Saudis?

EMR Mar 13th 2019 1:36 pm

Re: Shamima Begum has UK citizenship revoked
 

Originally Posted by anotherlimey (Post 12652890)
It might surprise you but terrorists existed before we bombed any civilians.

Hypothetical question time... back in the 90s the CIA was trying to get Bin Laden in Afghanistan, they didn't strike, at least on one instance, because of worries over collateral damage (a Saudi Prince no less). Knowing what we know now, we could have avoided 9/11, Iraq, Afghanistan, ISIS. 100ks killed needlessly, mostly Muslims, etc. Would that change your mind? Would you just send the Navy SEALs or SAS to have done it? Or do all the dead brown people not matter as long as you don't kill a few other Saudis?

But terrorism has exploited literally since we started bombing civilians.
The dead in Iraq was the biggest and most efficient recruiting campaign the terror groups ever had...
I leave you to the internet and conspiracy magazines..


anotherlimey Mar 13th 2019 5:20 pm

Re: Shamima Begum has UK citizenship revoked
 

Originally Posted by EMR (Post 12652902)
But terrorism has exploited literally since we started bombing civilians.
The dead in Iraq was the biggest and most efficient recruiting campaign the terror groups ever had...
I leave you to the internet and conspiracy magazines..

But it occured before we bombed civilians.

My info is from a prize winning author. I know it's difficult to understand the real world sometimes.... #sad.

EMR Mar 13th 2019 5:22 pm

Re: Shamima Begum has UK citizenship revoked
 

Originally Posted by anotherlimey (Post 12653048)
But it occured before we bombed civilians.

I know it's difficult to understand the real world sometimes.... #sad.

I suggest you go away and research the growth of terrorism , the military involvement by the West from the first Iraq war onwards..
You can chart the rise and meteoric rise in some years since 1991..

Boiler Mar 13th 2019 5:30 pm

Re: Shamima Begum has UK citizenship revoked
 

Originally Posted by EMR (Post 12653052)
I suggest you go away and research the growth of terrorism , the military involvement by the West from the first Iraq war onwards..

Some historical knowledge would really help.

This is a very very small example:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassins

anotherlimey Mar 13th 2019 5:35 pm

Re: Shamima Begum has UK citizenship revoked
 

Originally Posted by EMR (Post 12653052)
I suggest you go away and research the growth of terrorism , the military involvement by the West from the first Iraq war onwards..
You can chart the rise and meteoric rise in some years since 1991..

And that's a good excuse for not actually knowing anything. You should try reading more.

Yes, i'm sure if we stopped bombing tomorrow terrorism would stop the next day.

i've never laughed so hard. Almost as funny as terrorism started in 1991.

Boiler Mar 13th 2019 5:39 pm

Re: Shamima Begum has UK citizenship revoked
 
Apart from anything else she is Bangladeshi, not Iraqi.

EMR Mar 13th 2019 5:49 pm

Re: Shamima Begum has UK citizenship revoked
 

Originally Posted by anotherlimey (Post 12653068)
And that's a good excuse for not actually knowing anything. You should try reading more.

Yes, i'm sure if we stopped bombing tomorrow terrorism would stop the next day.

i've never laughed so hard. Almost as funny as terrorism started in 1991.

I said look at the rise meteoric in terrorism rise since 1991..
The simple facts is that terrorism is here to stay, every innocent killed by a bomb, deliberately or otherwise fuels terrorism...
You obviously have a very sick sense of humour and an inability to read.



Boiler Mar 13th 2019 5:52 pm

Re: Shamima Begum has UK citizenship revoked
 

Originally Posted by EMR (Post 12653080)
I said look at the rise meteoric in terrorism rise since 1991..
The simple facts is that terrorism is here to stay, every innocent killed by a bomb, deliberately or otherwise fuels terrorism...
You obviously have a very sick sense of humour and an inability to read.

Yet again some historical knowledge would be of help, now admittedly I am not sure how you measure it but that certainly is not the case.

EMR Mar 13th 2019 5:52 pm

Re: Shamima Begum has UK citizenship revoked
 

Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 12653073)
Apart from anything else she is Bangladeshi, not Iraqi.

No she isn,t, she is British.

EMR Mar 13th 2019 5:54 pm

Re: Shamima Begum has UK citizenship revoked
 

Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 12653063)
Some historical knowledge would really help.

This is a very very small example:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassins

We are discussing modern , Islamic terror..

EMR Mar 13th 2019 5:54 pm

Re: Shamima Begum has UK citizenship revoked
 

Originally Posted by anotherlimey (Post 12653048)
But it occured before we bombed civilians.

My info is from a prize winning author. I know it's difficult to understand the real world sometimes.... #sad.

Who, Dan Brown, ?

anotherlimey Mar 13th 2019 5:57 pm

Re: Shamima Begum has UK citizenship revoked
 

Originally Posted by EMR (Post 12653080)
I said look at the rise meteoric in terrorism rise since 1991..
The simple facts is that terrorism is here to stay, every innocent killed by a bomb, deliberately or otherwise fuels terrorism...
You obviously have a very sick sense of humour and an inability to read.

as long as it happens in far away places, and to brown people, right?

like all your type you lack an understanding of history and the real world.

but that bubble feels cozy, am I right?

anotherlimey Mar 13th 2019 5:58 pm

Re: Shamima Begum has UK citizenship revoked
 

Originally Posted by EMR (Post 12653086)
Who, Dan Brown, ?

lmao.. you really are narrow minded.

anotherlimey Mar 13th 2019 5:59 pm

Re: Shamima Begum has UK citizenship revoked
 

Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 12653073)
Apart from anything else she is Bangladeshi, not Iraqi.

she's brown, EMR just wants her dead, subjugated or making him 50c shirts in a sweat shop.


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