Assanah

Abetting is a crime. Having slaves is a crime. Not helping someone in dire need is a crime. Let's the courts prosecute her. To just talk about her as a poor abused women is just sexist in my view. Women are just things, subordinate to the husband. Innocent, weak blablabla. Before putting her into the poor women category why not investigate her first. Maybe she was a slave holder?

Pulaski

Well the risk of Shamima's son being radicalized has certainly been reduced. On that narrow point, Boiler may actually be correct.

Boiler

In the UK it is but this took place where it was not.

I do find it amusing how some seem to twist themselves into knots, what happened to MeToo, BelieveWomen, there is an article in the Graun that is on the edge of calling Islam a Cult, yet they are usually the ones bringing up Islamophobia.

Is this racism/genderism, why can we not believe what she said and did?

EMR

Not a point of view any right thinking person should support..
To think that way makes us no better than Isis..

Boiler

You were the one was wanted risk reduction. Mr P just stated the obvious.

EMR

Really , your idea of risk reduction is dead babies, I hope not..

Pulaski

As a realist I would suggest that many of the immediate peers of Shamima's son in the refugee camps will be taking up arms within 15 years, not "might" but "will". That is the reality of the situation.

EMR

Which is why the British government and probably others are looking at ways of removing their child nationals from the camps...

BristolUK

Are you looking to re-write Genesis of the Daleks?

macliam

......... and maybe she wasn't. Ever heard of "innocent until proven guilty" - or do you prefer mob rule, if you don't believe in rehabilitation?

I find it incredible that so many people have already written her off as so much trash for someone else to dispose of, based on the "evidence" of media reports. Would the same be done in other circumstances - would you suggest that the girlfriend of a burglar should suffer the same fate as her partner? Or is there something special about her, apart from her being in the spotlight?

Daesh follow a perversion of Islam, a cruel and unforgiving doctrine that attempts to "justify" the mistreatment of their victims - but that doesn't give us the right to do the same.

Pulaski

The last time I checked, burglarism wasn't a homicidal cult.

If you lay down with the dogs, …..

Lion in Winter

"Burglarism"? Is that like Cape's "wiseness".

BristolUK

I think it may be like plagiarism. A sort of copycat crime involving B&E.

Lion in Winter

Well these things are giving me a bad case of annoyedism

Shard

​​​​You'd be getting a K if I knew how to work it on my phone.