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Old Mar 3rd 2019, 3:03 pm
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Default Re: Shamima Begum has UK citizenship revoked

Originally Posted by Shard View Post
Which suggests she is entitled.
So why are Media ignoring this rather salient fact?
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Old Mar 3rd 2019, 3:05 pm
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Default Re: Shamima Begum has UK citizenship revoked

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So why are Media ignoring this rather salient fact?
It is?
Did I imagine the discussion about having to apply before age 21 and it may or may not be granted?
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Old Mar 3rd 2019, 3:11 pm
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Default Re: Shamima Begum has UK citizenship revoked

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It is?
Did I imagine the discussion about having to apply before age 21 and it may or may not be granted?
Not the latter, but if it was the latter is that not a story?
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Default Re: Shamima Begum has UK citizenship revoked

From the link in post #482

First to the law. There are no Bangladeshi court decisions dealing with the question of whether someone in Shamima’s position is Bangladeshi or not, but there have been two recent decisions of the UK’s Special Immigration Appeal Commission which dealt with three Bangladeshis, two of whom (referred to as G3 and E3) were in almost identical legal positions to Begum.

Both cases – one decided in December 2017, the other in November 2018 – found that Bangladesh law was clear; according to section 5 and 14 of Bangladesh’s Citizenship Act 1951, people born in the UK to parents with Bangladeshi citizenship would, at the time of their birth, be Bangladeshi citizens and would at least remain so until the age of 21. Both these decisions appear to contradict the Bangladesh government position on Begum. This strongly suggests that the Home Office’s decision to exclude the 19-year-old teenager will in due course be found lawful.

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/0...e-to-take-her/
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Default Re: Shamima Begum has UK citizenship revoked

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From the link in post #482

First to the law. There are no Bangladeshi court decisions dealing with the question of whether someone in Shamima’s position is Bangladeshi or not, but there have been two recent decisions of the UK’s Special Immigration Appeal Commission which dealt with three Bangladeshis, two of whom (referred to as G3 and E3) were in almost identical legal positions to Begum.

Both cases – one decided in December 2017, the other in November 2018 – found that Bangladesh law was clear; according to section 5 and 14 of Bangladesh’s Citizenship Act 1951, people born in the UK to parents with Bangladeshi citizenship would, at the time of their birth, be Bangladeshi citizens and would at least remain so until the age of 21. Both these decisions appear to contradict the Bangladesh government position on Begum. This strongly suggests that the Home Office’s decision to exclude the 19-year-old teenager will in due course be found lawful.

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/0...e-to-take-her/
The interesting issue is to me is why the likes of the Guardian, pretty easy to find the above, seems to ignore this, seems somewhat salient and most articles are described as news and not opinion, not that that should matter?
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Nobody is ignoring anything. From practically day 1 it was established that she is not Bengali, but had a right to claim Bengali citizenship by 21 if she chose to do so. No conspiracy theory here.
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Default Re: Shamima Begum has UK citizenship revoked

Not according to the Guardian.

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Nobody is ignoring anything. From practically day 1 it was established that she is not Bengali, but had a right to claim Bengali citizenship by 21 if she chose to do so. No conspiracy theory here.
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Not according to the Guardian.
What is the problem with The Guardian that you keep raising?
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Default Re: Shamima Begum has UK citizenship revoked

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Not the latter, but if it was the latter is that not a story?
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Not according to the Guardian.
Sorry, I'm a but puzzled. Both parts of what I posted were discussed here with reference to media sources where it had been reported and opined.
There may not have been headlines about it but such detail has been included within published articles where, maybe, a headline referred to a different aspect.
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Default Re: Shamima Begum has UK citizenship revoked

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The interesting issue is to me is why the likes of the Guardian, pretty easy to find the above, seems to ignore this, seems somewhat salient and most articles are described as news and not opinion, not that that should matter?
Because such awkward facts don’t fit into the narrative it wishes to craft.
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Default Re: Shamima Begum has UK citizenship revoked

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Because such awkward facts don’t fit into the narrative it wishes to craft.
We will see won,t we , if, as and when the UK courts rule on the home office decision.
Given the Home Office record of over ruled decisions I would not want to bet my money on them..
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Default Re: Shamima Begum has UK citizenship revoked

Originally Posted by Boiler View Post
The interesting issue is to me is why the likes of the Guardian, pretty easy to find the above, seems to ignore this, seems somewhat salient and most articles are described as news and not opinion, not that that should matter?
Without going into all the legalese, the Guardian addressed this issue in at least two articles last week.



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Originally Posted by BristolUK View Post
Without going into all the legalese, the Guardian addressed this issue in at least two articles last week.
Indeed. I really don't see any issue here. Am I missing something?
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Default Re: Shamima Begum has UK citizenship revoked

Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian View Post
One media report was that she has not applied before the age of 22. I think BIP addressed this a few posts ago.
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She is 19 and has to apply before 21.
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Which suggests she is entitled.
Yes.
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Default Re: Shamima Begum has UK citizenship revoked

Originally Posted by BristolUK View Post
Without going into all the legalese, the Guardian addressed this issue in at least two articles last week.
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Indeed. I really don't see any issue here. Am I missing something?
Grateful if you could provide the relevant link as I don’t recall any Guardian article addressing the legal position other than a couple of select one line quotes.
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